How do you get sand out of the ball joint?

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Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Robert Poane on Saturday, September 29, 2012 - 01:11 pm:

I am not sure what the ball joint is, but my wheels were painted and when I put the front ones on the car and spun it, it sounded like sand grinding. How do I take off the bearing part of the back of the front wheel so I can clean or replace it? Thank you in advanced for your help! Bob


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Will,, Evans Mills NY on Saturday, September 29, 2012 - 01:32 pm:

The front bearings are threaded, right hand for the right side and left hand thread for the drivers side. remove the front bearing and then depending on how the seal looks you can sometimes save the seal and remove the inner bearing with the seal


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Craig Anderson, central Wisconsin on Saturday, September 29, 2012 - 02:03 pm:

http://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/257047/314691.html?1348938670

He double posted.......


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Robert Poane on Saturday, September 29, 2012 - 02:37 pm:

First, how do you grab onto the bearing since it spins

and two, right hand thread to me means turning it clockwise to put on and counter clockwise to take off.

And left hand mean turning counter clockwise to put on and clockwise to take off.

Is this what you are saying?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Ken Kopsky, Lytle TX on Saturday, September 29, 2012 - 03:39 pm:

Yes, that's correct.
Use a hub cap wrench. Every one I've seen has the wheel bearing slot/hole for removing the outer bearing.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Robert Poane on Saturday, September 29, 2012 - 03:43 pm:

Thanks, I will go out now and give it a go. Bob


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By John Semprez-Templeton, CA on Saturday, September 29, 2012 - 10:37 pm:

Wash your bearings and inner hubs with solvent. repack your bearings with grease and see if the grinding sound goes away. If not replace your bearings,


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Hal Davis-SE Georgia on Sunday, September 30, 2012 - 04:55 am:

I believe Will may be mistaken about the thread direction. The bearings should be continuously trying to loosen themselves. Therefore, the right bearing should be LH thread and the left should be RH thread.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Hal Davis-SE Georgia on Sunday, September 30, 2012 - 05:07 am:

Robert,

Does your car still have the ball bearings rather than the later roller bearings? If so, the balls are loose. There is a snap ring that retains the balls on the inner bearing. You would have to remove the seal, then the snap ring then the balls will come out. Clean them then put them back with lots of grease to hold them in place while reinstalling the snap ring.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Will,, Evans Mills NY on Sunday, September 30, 2012 - 07:03 am:

Hal, I stand corrected,,, Your right,


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Robert Poane on Sunday, September 30, 2012 - 11:47 am:

This is the part I do not understand how to get off. I think you are referring to the other side or am I not getting it? Thanks!!, Bob


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dan Treace, North FL on Sunday, September 30, 2012 - 01:37 pm:

Diagram of parts to the front wheel.



With the wheel off, as you have, place a long narrow hardwood peg (dowel) drift into the wheel hub from the hub cap side and punch carefully the inner bearing loose from the race. You may first have to pry or punch loose the dust cap that covers the bearing.

Normally the inner bearing should stay on the spindle as you remove the wheel. The inner surface of the taper bearing should be a firm fix on the spindle. You only want the bearings to roll inside and against the cup race, not spin on the spindle shaft.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Robert Poane on Sunday, September 30, 2012 - 01:41 pm:

Thank you Dan, the diagram is a big help. Bob


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dan Treace, North FL on Sunday, September 30, 2012 - 02:20 pm:

Bob

You're welcome.

Diagram from p.30, Ford Instruction Book (Owner's Manual).

Every Model T was delivered from the factory to the buyer with it, along with the tool kit. :-)



Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Robert Poane on Sunday, September 30, 2012 - 04:37 pm:

After all these years of owning a Model T and going to Hershey I never knew about this book. I do have the 3.25 x 6 inch version instruction book with a big 'T' on the front, but no picture of the spindle that I can find.

I'll put that on my Hershey list!


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