Went to the auction in Lewistown today, nice 26 touring -- better than #3 -- ran well, mag didn't work, Ruckstell, old restoration, good top, no side curtains, whitewalls pretty yellow, etc: $15,500
Model A's sold for about 20-30% over what I would have called market value anywhere else. Proves the power of a good auction and how a well-liked/well respected seller can raise the prices.
Guess I`ll head for Montana when its time to sell some of My Ts& As----those prices are more then "high end". Can you do the sale, Stan?----Paul
Well, I think a big part of it is that 1. You need to die so it's an estate auction and 2. You need to be well known and well liked locally so everybody shows up at the auction. 3. You need to have people show up who aren't necessarily T or A guys, but who want one of (???????)'s cars and have the money to buy one. These cars were all about #3, older restorations, good amateur but not professional paint, whitewalls pretty yellow, etc, etc. 29 coupe brought #13,500; 28 Phaeton $20,000, 29 Tudor, $15,500, 29 roadster $26,000. The roadster was pretty rough after you got close, the doors didn't fit well, etc. Lots of advertising, lots of money there. Shobe Auction does a good job getting money out of stuff. They got every dime on these cars.
In answer to your question, Paul. Sure, we can do the auction. =) I've had several just like this where the prices exceeded any similarity to reason but brought that kind of money because of local interest and buyers with money who wanted one of the cars.
My impression from ads is that non-auction prices for old cars in Montana tend to be low. True? Auctions vary widely, depending on who shows up. Last week I saw a very nice 1930 A Tudor sell for $6500.
A friend just bought a right hand drive 28 Phaeton at auction for 11,000. I haven't seen it yet. Tomorrow I go pick up our latest mistake!
There was a very nice 1931 Sports Coupe on Craigs list for $9000.00 last week in Montana. I was in Great Falls spoiling grand kids and saw the ad!!
One of my boys said they talked to someone who flew in for the event, which is a pretty hard deal to accomplish in Lewistown, MT. My purchase is headed to the machine shop this morning to see if my 20-30% over, was time and money wasted. I give it 50/50 chances. A couple of photos, apologies for none of the touring; it was behind this A. It will make the new owner happy for many years without hardly needing a thing.
It you were an A guy, it was heaven on earth. Limited T selection. More generally, it was a very well run auction, well labeled, laid out neatly, etc. Best T deal I saw was a pair of big drum rear wheels for $50.
Road conditions getting there from here, not so much...
[paging Scott Conger...]
Looks a mite chilly.
What did you buy, Brian?? By the way, Lewistown has one of the best and most active airports in the state. There is commercial air service in and out as well as good private facilities. It was a WWII training base so there is a lot of runway. I bought my Cessna 150 there years ago when I first started flying; a guy named Frank somebody had the flight service. I used to fly in and out of there quite a bit.
The Sport Coupe must have already sold for that kind of money, it's not on craigslist anymore. Here is a Tudor for sale in Deer Lodge, I don't know the car, just saw it while trolling CList looking for the Sport Coupe.
Low head on the end of the table is mine; at the machinist now. Will be bead blasted, fluxed and checked for straight.
Machinist retiring this month, so happy to have something interesting and other than a Chevy 350 to work on as his shop time comes to a close.
Just wanted to "bump" Stans auction message and his suggestions for a successful auction. He recomended an "estate" auction etc. etc and that reminded me of a longtime "fantasy" I`ve had: to attend my OWN auction (I`d bet many of you have the same....) and see the results of 40 years of antique car and parts accumulation. It would be interesting to see the prices and hear the comments of the "experts" in attendance! Guess I can only hope my kids and families cash in on my hobby---they`ll never appreciate the return on my "astute" dealings over the years(I hope....)Paul