just went round the block again, got hot, soon as i killed it water started spewing out around the top of the top hose, it does have a water pump, should i take it off,as have read pros/cons about it. I guess just another stepping stone in the ownership of a T.soon as it cools gonna flush out radiator real good.
getting hot problem,,think maybe to much tongue weight,nahh just thought this was a neat picture,gonna go work on heating problem
Around the block, with or without a water pump, your motor should not get that hot, that fast, unless there is a stoppage of water flow, such as a thermostat that someone had installed and it is defective.
Just asking. Are you sure it is getting HOT? Or, was the radiator overfilled, and it is simply regurgitating the excess?
The will all barf the excess.
Water should not spew out around the top of the top hose! Sounds as if the clamp is too loose. Tighten up the clamp and try again. If it is really getting hot, it will gurgle and steam. The steam will come out around the cap or if the gasket on the cap is tight, it will come out the overflow tube. ]
When you fill the radiator, fill it to the Ford emblem stamped in the front of the top tank of the radiator or radiator shell. If it still spews out after it is warm, then perhaps it is too hot. It should take more than a trip around the block to heat the engine. Several miles on level ground or up a steep hill for about a mile will warm it up, but it still should not boil if you have a good radiator, the radiator and block are clean, the timing and fuel mixture are set right.
Norm
yes gurgle and steam found cap loose should there be a gasket of any kind, how about removeing the stat and still gonna clean and flush radiator,water pump leave on??
Yes there should be a gasket under the cap. Sometimes you may even need more than one, you can tell if the cap is snugging up on the gasket.
Late timing quickly causes overheating.
by late timing do you mean retarded? guess i'll order a few gaskets none there,got it soaking now with a flush in it. I did notice that from about 5-6 notches down on the spark lever to all the way almost no change,the rod to the timer is moving all the way.
Ronnie, as the T radiator is not sealed you do not need a gasket under the radiator cap, but you most certainly will want one, to stop rusty water getting all over the hood when she does get hot. My son stumbled on a neat way to make a very serviceable gasket. A red nolathane boat trailer roller is the correct outside diameter. He chucked the roller in my lathe and cut a washer about 1/8" thick using a hacksaw as the roller was turned. A 1"
wad punch was used to make a hole in the centre so the radiator can be filled. The really good thing is the gasket is not affected by heat and because it is somewhat soft, it allows easy alignment of a dogbone radiator cap.
Hope this helps.
Allan from down under.
Ronnie, I think it's real important for you to get to where you understand a little more about your timing and the affect it can have on overheating. Also, assure your timer, timer rod and lever are all correct to make sure your timing is right. I don't know what kind of timer you've got (you've probably said in a different thread) but an Anderson is timed a little different than a Ford or New Day or ??? The first thing I've done with both my T's after I bought them is remove the water pumps and thermostats and put everything the way Henry built them. Then I flush the crap out of the radiators and engines and haven't had overheating problems yet. But understanding the timing helped me the most. When I fill my radiator I never go more than maybe a half inch above the tubes. I don't use any kind of gasket in my radiators and though antifreeze will splash out around the cap from time to time it's easy to clean off. But then my T's aren't show cars either. Hang in there, you're right on track for owning and understanding Model T's. And trust me, if your like me even after over a year of working on them and playing with them you're still not going to know much. So hang in there with this forum but take everything you hear on here with a grain of salt. :-)
Ronnie: I feel for you! I had basically the same problem. My '19 would boil like a coffee pot. So I tried the following.
Checked the timing and it was correct.
Then pulled the radiator went and bought a gallon of acid and did a n acid flush or really a soak.
I then tried a vinegar soak. Assembled everything back to a complete car. Took it for short drive around the neighborhood, no boiling and did not get anywhere like it did. If it had not improved I was going to buy a new radiator but hated to spend $700 or 800 for one. I had also changed the front axle and just today re keyed(cotter) every bolt. So now I am waiting to do a short drive.
If you are not sure about the timing, check it and make sure it is correct.
Good luck and ask questions here as there are a bunch of "old Salts" that can give you a lot of good help and guide you in the right direction.
Even though I have had a "T" for 20 + years I am still learning.
As one of our CHP officers always "Go out and enjoy the ride"
Bill D
Redding, Ca.
Allan Bennett, why go to all of that trouble? A rubber gasket is available from the vendors, or a thick 'O'ring works well also. Just sayin'. Dave
No trouble for me David. The roller was left over from a job so didn't have to go out and buy one. It takes about 8 to 10 days for a package to get to us, and knowing how some vendors over package their orders, it could come in a foot square box and cost tens of dollars in postage. You guys are spoilt!
I have tried the o-ring trick, with limited success. Unless you can find a cap with a flange on the bottom or you can beat the edge of the cap in a little, they do not sit well on an o-ring.
My first attempt with the roller gasket was a disaster. It sealed over the overflow tube and as the car hotted up, the radiator was pressurised and I split a solder join in the top tank. T's get really hot really quickly with no water in the top tank!
Allan from down under.
Better radiator cap gasket >>>>>>>>
Go to your local hardware store & purchase a "Mack drain gasket".
This is the rubber gasket that goes under the sink, between the sink & metal retaining nut.
It's very close in diameter to the radiator fill recess, and the rubber is fluted on the side you want next to the radiator cap.
No more sprayed windshield, no more spotted hood.
Bob Jablonski