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Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Richard Wolf on Wednesday, October 17, 2012 - 09:43 pm:

Installed my new Spark Plug Wires this evening. Had to drill out the holes(too small) and found out the wire ends are just copper coated. My old ones are brass. Bought them 30 yrs ago and don't remember having to drill them out. CHEAP


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Peter Claverie on Wednesday, October 17, 2012 - 10:04 pm:

Where'd you get them?

While I don't particularly like folks talking bad about a supplier because of one bad experience, it is helpful to the rest of us to know when a given piece of goods is not what we expected it to be.

I suspect, given the general quality of the Model T parts suppliers, they will want to know as well.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mack Cole ---- Earth on Wednesday, October 17, 2012 - 10:44 pm:

Call me a tight wad,but when I can,I gently remove the old wire ends and clean and reuse.much better than the new 1's.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Royce in Dallas TX on Thursday, October 18, 2012 - 06:43 am:

Richard,

I would send those back for a refund. The steel terminal ends will corrode and cause trouble soon. Who ever is making those will hopefully go out of business if we spread the word about the rotten quality of their product.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By ROBERT J STEINER on Thursday, October 18, 2012 - 07:41 am:

The guy I know who makes the wire sets his terminals are made of solid brass or solid copper. I know he make alot of brass/copper terminals for all makes models of cars/trucks/tractors and stationary engines. He won't use steel coated terminals for those applications


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Richard Wolf on Thursday, October 18, 2012 - 08:09 am:

A magnet won't stick to the wire end, but when I had to drill out the holes(too small) the shavings sure stuck to the magnet.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Ron Dupree on Thursday, October 18, 2012 - 08:14 am:

Another thing to watch for. One of our club members bought a new set of plug wires and the heat from the exhaust system caused the outer covering to swell. The covering LOOKED like an original style woven material but was just plastic that looked like woven.

Ron Dupree


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Richard Wolf on Thursday, October 18, 2012 - 09:07 am:

Me again, checking closer I noticed the wire is not soldered to the wire end.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Ken Kopsky, Lytle TX on Thursday, October 18, 2012 - 09:10 am:

I wonder what the price of these wire sets might be? If you're shopping based on the cheapest price, you're getting what you ordered. Of course there's at least one vendor where that doesn't exactly hold true. They have a habit of substituting a quality made hobbyist's product with a cheap copy and keeping the same price or near to it.

Competition is a good thing but the quality shouldn't suffer. As long as folks keep buying based on price alone, sub-standard parts will continue to be made.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Richard Wolf on Thursday, October 18, 2012 - 09:58 am:

I was looking in the catalog I ordered my wires from and just ordered the wrong set.(CHEAPO'S) My mistake. The real ones, with the brass ends, are about $8.00 more.
Problem solved. Thanks for all the input.
Richard


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Royce in Dallas TX on Thursday, October 18, 2012 - 10:05 am:

The most recent set I got with the brass ends was not soldered. I had to solder them myself.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Larry Smith on Thursday, October 18, 2012 - 10:29 am:

I do like Mack says too. I save the old ends, and solder them on new wires. Works for me.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dan Treace, North FL on Thursday, October 18, 2012 - 10:48 am:

Have found this this fellow makes the best, they fit right, and look good, soldered terminals, brass. Got another set at Hershey for the parts cabinet. :-)



He'll make these black and red, or the varnished looking yellow, or plain solid tan-brown for the early T's.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By M Philpott on Thursday, October 18, 2012 - 11:04 am:

In 6 and 12 volt systems the current doesn't flow down the center but rather the outside surface. That's why in buying aftermarket wires for today's cars they come in 6,7,8,etc mm wires. Also, it explains why corrosion on the battery ends will cause such a problem in not having a fully charged battery. It took me some time in getting this info from some car racers when I was building up customs and rods.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By ROBERT J STEINER on Thursday, October 18, 2012 - 11:51 am:

RJ&L Vintage Wiring will also make custom wire sets to your specs.. Just give him the center-center distance color of wire and terminal brass or copper and he'll make up the set with soldered terminals.
Great for speedsters or custom built cars/trucks


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Richard Wolf on Friday, October 19, 2012 - 09:11 am:

Dan;
That email address on RJ&L card is bouncing back.????


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By ROBERT J STEINER on Friday, October 19, 2012 - 09:18 am:

web site is www.rjlautofasteners.com

or their e-mail is rjlfast@gmail.com


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Richard Wolf on Friday, October 19, 2012 - 09:35 am:

Thanks Robert.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mike D, Williamsburg VA on Friday, October 19, 2012 - 10:50 am:

My T was "missing" every now and then.
This is what I found.



Poor connection to the terminal


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Richard Wolf on Friday, October 19, 2012 - 11:32 am:

That'll do it.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Steve McClelland on Friday, October 19, 2012 - 12:00 pm:

You can buy the wire by the foot on eBay as well as the terminal ends it could be the same person ( R.J &L) ...?
I also think I've seen it in restoration supply, the same way already cut and made up or by the foot. They too have the terminal ends.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By ROBERT J STEINER on Friday, October 19, 2012 - 12:10 pm:

RJ&L sell it already made up with soldered brass or copper terminals..or you also can but the terminals and wire by the foot and do it yourself. The only thing is crimping the terminals cleanly and soldering the wire onto the brass terminal. You can download their wire catalog.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Peter Claverie on Friday, October 19, 2012 - 12:44 pm:

One of these days I plan to make up a set of plug wires made of barbed wire. I've seen pictures of this, and think it's amusing.

I'll be sure to solder the ends!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Howard near Pittsburgh PA on Friday, October 19, 2012 - 02:02 pm:

I'l bet the barbed wire cables would make a nice electrical display. It would be neat to see the corona discharge off the pointy ends, especially at night!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Susanne on Wednesday, October 24, 2012 - 07:35 pm:

Just don't reach in the hood while she's running.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Richard Wolf on Wednesday, October 24, 2012 - 07:43 pm:

Susanne;
Sounds like you found out the hard way. LOL


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jack Daron - Brownsburg IN on Wednesday, October 24, 2012 - 07:52 pm:

Richard,some guys you can teach,some you can show,and there's always the guy who has to pee on the fence...


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dave Dufault on Wednesday, October 24, 2012 - 07:55 pm:

Maybe, but that was Susanne with the warning...did her brother tell her?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Roar Sand on Wednesday, October 24, 2012 - 07:58 pm:

Corona under the hood!?
Nah. I like my beer cold! :-)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Richard Wolf on Wednesday, October 24, 2012 - 08:37 pm:

You got that right, Jack.
A shocking experience.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Susanne on Thursday, October 25, 2012 - 06:58 pm:

Electrifying!

No, it was me, about 3 weeks ago... I had just started Angel and saw the headlight terminal was loose... instead of walking to the toolbox, I grabbed this big screwdriver on the shelf behind me (only one close) and leaned in, and brushed the top of the #4 plug with my arm...

(Glad it wasn't something *else* that brushed the plug instead!!! AI YI YI YI YI!!!! )

It took me back to when I was a kid, leaning on an electric fence on a damp day... on steroids!!!

Good thing is, I won't have to pay to have my hair curled ever again... --grins--


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Gary Schiebe - Plymouth, MN on Thursday, November 01, 2012 - 12:05 am:

I made up a set of barb wire spark plug wires for our 1925 TT. We were out in western MN at a friends place and cut some old barb wire that was growing between two trees. Formed the wires, cleaned them up, used small ground strap connectors at both ends and then painted them up. The following is the "brand" of spark plug wires named after the lake our friends are on. They work great and have had a lot of fun with them.

Torgerson

“True-Fire” Sparkplug Wires

with Hands Off Security feature





Barb Wire Spark Plug Wires


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Ricks - Surf City on Thursday, November 01, 2012 - 01:50 am:

Is that the same Torgerson that lives in Lake Wobegon?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Roger Karlsson, southern Sweden on Thursday, November 01, 2012 - 06:37 am:

Here's the lake where the barb wire grows :-) http://goo.gl/maps/nrkjQ


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Ricks - Surf City on Thursday, November 01, 2012 - 08:59 am:

Thanks, Roger. I may have spelled it wrong: Lake Woebegone. It's a mythical town in Minn the subject of storyteller Garrison Keillor. Torgerson family is a frequent subject. The Catholics drive Fords, and the Lutherans drive Chevies. (Or is it the other way round?) He ends each story with, ".. where all the men are good looking, the women are strong, and the children are above average."


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Richard Wolf on Thursday, November 01, 2012 - 10:36 am:

I would sure like to have some of those red plug wires.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Roger Karlsson, southern Sweden on Thursday, November 01, 2012 - 10:51 am:

Oh yes, I should hav recognised that one :-) I can't get the radio show "A Prairie Home Companion" here, but I liked the film http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=05AfA24Q-eo


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Ricks - Surf City on Thursday, November 01, 2012 - 11:08 am:

Here you go, Roger:
http://www.scpr.org/programs/prairie-home-companion

Also, Car Talk is entertaining, and sometimes just as mythical.

"Car Talk is a weekly car talk show hosted by brothers Ray and Tom Magliozzi (aka "Click and Clack, The Tappet Brothers"), who are long-time mechanics. They chat about cars, dispense advice to callers, and give their weekly Puzzler."

They would love a question about barbed sparkplug wires.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Stan Howe Helena, Montana on Thursday, November 01, 2012 - 11:38 am:

You should be able to listen to Prairie Home Companion anywhere in the world. Go to Prairie Home Productions for a list of various links and websites that carry it. The easiest may be to go to MTPR.org -- (Montana Public Radio dot Org)and listen to the live broadcast at 6 PM US Mountain Time on Saturday. You can also listen to me on the first Tuesday of the month at 2:06 PM as part of the Folk Show. I'm into my 17th year of hosting this show that I record in my studio and mail to them. I'll be on next Tuesday unless the election pre-empts me.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Gary Schiebe - Plymouth, MN on Thursday, November 01, 2012 - 05:42 pm:

Roger
You are correct that is the lake. A very quiet and peaceful spot and our friends own a lake home on what use to be a "Shy Norwegian Bachelor Farmers" farm. I guess I can say it is official Prairie Home Companion barb wire


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By kep NZ on Friday, November 02, 2012 - 02:57 am:

i like the barbed wire look, i should get some my plug wires are one of the few actual ford parts and get cooked in the manifold.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Roar Sand on Friday, November 02, 2012 - 12:18 pm:

Will you look at all those lakes around there!
No wonder the mosquito is the State Bird of Minnesota.


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