The scammers win this one.

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Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jim Sims on Friday, October 26, 2012 - 02:07 pm:

A well educated member of our club just fell for the UK scammers. He posted a want ad on the internet and of course got a reply from the UK telling they had what he needed. Pay by Western Union of course. He completed the deal before telling me. Sure hated telling him to kiss his severial hundred dollars goodby. It seems to be the nicest people get the worst deal.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Steve McClelland on Friday, October 26, 2012 - 03:15 pm:

Sorry to hear that Jim, I'd love to meet one of the scammers face to face just to see if I could put my fist through his head sometimes I believe I could.... Well If not all the way through I bet I could make a mess of it ! I still accept any and all payments I can from them when I have a part for sale just because it cost them $12-$13 bucks to overnight me their fake check, then I toss it in the trash and rest good knowing I got them for a few bucks!!!
Low life roaches.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By R.V. Anderson on Friday, October 26, 2012 - 04:12 pm:

If an email message responds to your ad and it doesn't list specific, accurate information upfront, dump it. Every time.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Philip Berg on Saturday, October 27, 2012 - 12:24 am:

About six years ago I was selling a trailer on craigslist. A gentleman from Michigan emailed me that he wanted to buy it, I was suspicious.

He said the would send me a bank check then arrange transport, I was still suspicious. My wife believed him and said I should agree to the deal.

A couple days later a bank check arrived, so I went down and deposited it in the bank. When I got home I had another email from another seller off craigslist saying he had received emails from bogus buyers.

With that I called the bank and luckily the teller had not actually deposited in my account yet. I told her not too and went down and picked up the check. I called the bank and it was a fraudulent check. Ended up sending to the bank so they could give it to the police.

Lesson learned


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Craig Anderson, central Wisconsin on Saturday, October 27, 2012 - 01:59 am:

If he'd have informed Western Union SOON enough he might have got his money back.
A bank supervisor friend had a dumb_ss teller fullfill one of those Western Union scams......except THIS one was for right around $10,000!
She got on it RIGHT away and Western Union returned the funds.
Those wire transfers do NOT happen as instantly as people think.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By John Semprez-Templeton, CA on Saturday, October 27, 2012 - 12:32 pm:

Too bad!

Tell your friend I have the "items" he needs and will back up the transaction with the 17,000,000 Pounds Barclay's Bank has waiting for me in London. (I just got the notification today so I know it's good.)

Some people never learn.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Charlie B actually in Toms River N.J. on Saturday, October 27, 2012 - 12:50 pm:

Years ago I got a convincing e-mail like the one your buddy got concerning a T sale. I got lucky. I asked here before I moved on it. To this day I thank my lucky star I did. Oddly his English was quite good unlike some that you see. It was the repeated use of the word "item" that threw me. Of course now I'm a flippin' expert and can spot 'em a mile away. LOL. Just dumb luck the lock was on the barn door that first time.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Charlie B actually in Toms River N.J. on Saturday, October 27, 2012 - 12:53 pm:

By the way, I'm sorry about your friends loss but it only goes to show why these bums are still out there. One hit in 10,000 is still a hit.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By mike peterson on Saturday, October 27, 2012 - 01:32 pm:

I just dont understand how grown people fall for these.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Bill dugger on Saturday, October 27, 2012 - 01:54 pm:

Well I have to tell my story! I put a want ad, that read considering a Ruckstell, and stated within 500 miles of Redding California. Well I rec'd two hits, both in I think England and they used the word "item not scratched painted black and ready to use. As stated above the word "item" caught my eye. I asked for a price and it came to 1700 GBP so I knew it was a scam. I sent another email and stated your English and sense of direction is bad and have not heard a word since.

Bill dugger


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Hap Tucker on Saturday, October 27, 2012 - 02:07 pm:

Jim,

Please pass on to your friend we are sorry that he was taken. I’m sure he has learned a valuable lesson will handle offers more wisely in the future. Encourage him not to blame the T-hobby as the scammers and other folks with similar morals are out there trying to scam whoever they can however they can. And I wonder if the UK folks receive scam offers from people in the USA?

Here is South Carolina hackers made it into the SC state web site and accessed some credit card numbers, debit numbers, and the had access to 3.6 million social security numbers, all unencrypted. Basically if you filed a SC state income tax anytime since 1998 there is a potential exposure [ ref: http://www.wistv.com/story/19925420/millions-of-south-carolinians-personal-infor mation-stolen ] . In this case it is large enough that some law enforcement effort will be put into it. In many cases it is
Finally this is also another good plug for the forum. While sometimes we swing to one extreme or the other, in general if someone is not sure about something from “Is this person legitimate to how do I repair this part” etc. they can get some honest feedback on the forum.

Respectfully submitted,

Hap l9l5 cut off


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Peter Claverie on Saturday, October 27, 2012 - 03:40 pm:

My daughter just got scammed, and fell for it.

She got an invitation to become a "secret shopper." As instructed, she called an 800 number. Man explained in detail that they would send her a check for, I believe, a couple of thousand dollars.

When she was confident the check had cleared, she was to call him for instructions. She waited a week, and her bank told her the check had cleared.

She was instructed to draw out $200 and go to Wal-Mart and buy whatever she wanted, but to pay attention to cleanliness, courtesy, etc.

She called to report, and was told to do it again, at the local grocery store. She did.

Next time, she was told that they were checking on Western Union. Seems WU would short-change people who would wire money, which was refused or never picked up, and then went to get their money back.

On two occasions she was to wire money to the fellow in New York. He would refuse it, and she would go get it back. She could keep whatever WU gave her back, as long as she reported what happened.

THEN she gets a notice from her bank that the original check had bounced. Her bank, of course, denied any responsibility - even though they had reported it had cleared, a week after she deposited it.

Of course, the 800 number no longer answers.

I told her to (a) tell the bank they WERE at least partly responsible, and she would not pay the daily overdraft charges, and (b) notify the State Attorney General and the FBI (interstate wire fraud). She's doing those things, but she's scared to death.

BTW, she lives in Texas, and those folks don't take kindly to stuff like this!

I know I'll ultimately have to help her out, which I normally am happy to do, but I sure hate to see her, or anybody else, scammed like this!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Aaron Griffey, Hayward Ca. on Saturday, October 27, 2012 - 09:07 pm:

Thanks for that story Peter.
I just got one of those offers this week.
I always wondered how the scam works.

It's this kind of non T information that keeps me checking this site 3 times a day.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mike Husted on Saturday, October 27, 2012 - 09:52 pm:

I have found that this sight is watched very close by these people. I made a post here and I had noless then 7 responders to my ad all from
UK and 4 from other parts of the world. Buyer Beware!!!!!!!!


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