1924 same as 26 27

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Model T Ford Forum: Forum 2012: 1924 same as 26 27
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By kenny on Tuesday, October 30, 2012 - 12:50 pm:

im looking for parts to my model t fordor 1924.not many parts .but there are alot for 26 27.are they the same.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jerry VanOoteghem on Tuesday, October 30, 2012 - 01:09 pm:

It depends what parts you're talking about. Some are the same, others are not.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By john kuehn on Tuesday, October 30, 2012 - 01:56 pm:

Most of the body parts (sheet metal) if any dont interchange. What does interchange are some of the chassis parts and a majority of the engine parts but not all.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By keith g barrier on Tuesday, October 30, 2012 - 02:32 pm:

kenny, the fordors body wise, other than fenders and maybe firewalls are pretty much the same. ford used the same basic body through the end of production for the fordor. The difference comes in on the 2 door and othe styles, lots of wood still in the fordor. KB


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Wayne Sheldon, Grass Valley, CA on Tuesday, October 30, 2012 - 03:00 pm:

The Fordor and the ton truck are the two only Ts where significant body parts will interchange between the end of the "black era" and the "improved" cars. However there are some parts that will not. But as I don't have any '26/'27 cars, I don't know what they are. Many chassis parts will interchange correctly, some will work, and many won't. It is a very long list. What do you need?

By the way. Welcome to the affliction! This forum is the best site for questions if you want a good answer or a long discussion.

Drive carefully, and enjoy, W2


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Terry Woods, Katy, Texas on Tuesday, October 30, 2012 - 05:38 pm:

I beg to differ with those who say fordor bodies from 24 through 27 are basically the same. while doors and some body sheet metal, particularly in the rear, may interchange the cowl on the 26-27 were completely different to accommodate the wider 26-27 hood. Don't believe me; try putting a 26-27 hood on a 24-25 fordor body, or a 24-25 hood on a 26-27 body, then you tell me they're the same! Naturally the fenders, running boards, splash aprons, and even the radiator splash apron were different. Oh, and add to the list the window riser handles were different. the early ones were attached to the regulator shaft with a screw that protruded through end of the handle that fastens to the regulator shaft. The later regulator handles were similar to the Model A handle and used a pin or a set screw that tightened behind the handle and was hidden by the door upholstery. And some say they were pretty much the same. Go figure.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By jeff cordes on Tuesday, October 30, 2012 - 06:01 pm:

24 fordors for the most part have wood framed doors with a very odd window regulator while 25-27 use steel frame doors with a more traditional window regulator.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Hap Tucker on Tuesday, October 30, 2012 - 06:56 pm:

Kenny,

Great question. I would recommend ordering a copy of Bruce McCalley’s (RIP) “Model T Comprehensive Encyclopedia” they are available at: http://www.modelt.org/index.php?option=com_aclassf&Itemid=17&ct=veh3&md=details&id=211 scroll down to the advertisement for ordering information. (Current cost $50 plus $5.15 shipping). It contains all sorts of good information (see listing of information they have at: http://mtfca.com/encyclo/mccalley.htm ).

The item that would be of help to you would be the “Price List of Parts” section. Bruce entered the information from the multiple price list of parts into a searchable database/listing. So you can go to the body section, Fordor, and look to see which parts are listed as interchanging and which have a different date range etc.

For example below is half of one page from the body section listing Fordor parts. Note that it shows you that a fully upholstered door only fits the year it was sold with (i.e. upholstery doesn’t match and possibly some other items). But the bare unpainted doors are broken down into 1923-24 wooden and then 1924-1927 metal. And any of the metal doors work on any of the Fordors they originally came with. Bruce also included a two page introduction on how the Price List of Parts was compiled and how it is generally used.




What you would be looking for would be parts listed 1924-27 in the actually used column. That is also true for the chassis parts etc. Note most of the chassis parts can be made to work. For example a 1926-27 engine assembly will fit in a 1924-25 car. But you need to cut the slots for the pedals to match the 1926-27 pedals or you need to install the earlier hogs head and pedals etc. Again the price list of parts can be helpful because under the “Used Catalog” column, they say the non-starter engine will fit any non-starter T from 1909-1927. And yes some other parts may need to be changed to make it fit and work – but they are smaller parts. Note for the 1909s they “might” require the radiator and hood to be changed so the fan would clear etc. but for a 1924 – it should drop right in as the radiator was the same height 1924-1927.



In general, in does not cost any more time or money to restore a 1924 part as a 1926-27 part. Therefore if you have a 1924, I would suggest trying to obtain as many of the parts that are appropriate to your model year of car. The initial cost maybe a little more money or effort, but the final product will be much nicer. And in general it is easier to find the appropriate parts for a 1924 than a 1926 – because many of the other year parts are the same while 1926-27 was a lower number of cars produced and many of the parts are unique for that two year period. In some cases a part was only used for a couple of months during that 1926-27 period.

Bruce’s CD also contains the Encyclopedia with many additional photos and facts that are not able to be uploaded on the online version (see: http://mtfca.com/encyclo/intro.htm )

Good luck with you Fordor.

Respectfully submitted,

Hap l9l5 cut off


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By kenny on Tuesday, October 30, 2012 - 07:57 pm:

Thank you all,new to model t and just starting to look for parts.the pan around the bottom of the front seat.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By john kuehn on Wednesday, October 31, 2012 - 09:08 am:

Terry I agree with you. There are clear differences between the 24-25 and the improved later years.
Kenny I would suggest you send for a Howell's Sheet Metal Catalogue.
Check out their website at WWW.FORDOR.COM.
They have the sheet metal parts for most Model T'n on their website and their catalogue can be most helpful in seeing the differences in the different years. Look close and you can see the differences. But you have to look close to see the differences. When you go to swap meets its good to have a good idea in what your buying so when you get home with the parts you wont have a big surprise!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Steve Jelf, Parkerfield KS on Wednesday, October 31, 2012 - 10:22 am:

Here's another maker of body parts. A lot of their products are for the early cars, but there are also a few black-era items. http://www.rootlieb.com/

The Mac's catalogue also makes a good reference work because of the excellent pictures.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Royce in Dallas TX on Wednesday, October 31, 2012 - 11:19 am:

We had several of the Fordors in the Noken T club when I was a member. During one of our monthly tours we had 1924, 25, 26 and 27 models parked side by side. The 24 model had no cowl vent, so that one is easy to spot.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Rick Goelz-Knoxville,TN on Wednesday, October 31, 2012 - 11:23 am:

My March 24 Fordor has the cowl vent one without would be a 23or very early 24.

Rick


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By kenny on Wednesday, October 31, 2012 - 03:29 pm:

the body im good its the back bumper and light im haveing trouble with and some parts for stearing to


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By John Danuser on Wednesday, October 31, 2012 - 03:58 pm:

Bumpers were aftermarket,Ford did not put them on


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Roger Karlsson, southern Sweden on Wednesday, October 31, 2012 - 05:15 pm:

Many bumpers were produced by aftermarket companies but Ford did indeed produce their own bumpers as accessories for 26/27. Nickel plated bumpers were standard on the Sports Touring and the Sports Runabout.
http://www.mtfca.com/encyclo/doc26.htm
"JAN 28 Acc. 94, Fishleigh files, Ford Archives
Production of bumpers begins."


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Terry Woods, Katy, Texas on Wednesday, October 31, 2012 - 09:34 pm:

The dome lights come up on Ebay from time to time. The original 26-27 lens had a star shaped design cast into it and both that I have had are a light purple in color. Maybe they are like the headlight lens and turn purple with age and exposure to the sun. The hard part to find is the push/pull dome light switch and escutcheon which mounts on the passenger rear door pillar. A person is indeed lucky and blessed if they find a usable one. The Model A coupe dome light with built in switch is reproduced as is the lens and switch with escutcheon. The Model A switch is a sliding switch as opposed to a push/pull switch, though.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By kenny on Thursday, November 01, 2012 - 01:59 pm:

Thanks for that info.what about spare tire carrier.where the back light bolts to.


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