How rare are RHD parts

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Model T Ford Forum: Forum 2012: How rare are RHD parts
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Rob from Nova Scotia on Thursday, November 01, 2012 - 07:44 pm:

I was wondering how difficult it is to get the parts. I had just about everything for 1913, was going to build one, and I had a very devastating house fire, and all the parts were lost. I have oft wondered about it, and have found a 1913 Canadian engine and frame. Any thoughts, leads, etc?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By James A. Golden on Thursday, November 01, 2012 - 07:50 pm:

If you can find a 1926 RHD transmission cover, I know a guy that is interested in buying it.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Wayne Sheldon, Grass Valley, CA on Friday, November 02, 2012 - 03:12 am:

Except for the aluminum hogshead, most of the heavy parts should have survived a fire. When did it happen?
I have seen quite a few RHD parts lately. A few at local swap meets in Califunny, and some on eBad.
Good luck! It sounds like a fun project. I know someone close by me that is putting one together.
Drive carefully, and enjoy, W2


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Russell Prideaux on Friday, November 02, 2012 - 06:19 am:

Plenty of old RHD parts here in Australia. Not sure of shipping costs but all my new parts have come from the USA. Shipping is expensive but not prohibitive. What parts do you need?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Rob from Nova Scotia on Friday, November 02, 2012 - 06:45 am:

Wayne, the fire was three years ago, the parts were in the basement, which is where the majority of the 170 year old Ship Captains house ended up. Nothing was ever found


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Wayne Sheldon, Grass Valley, CA on Friday, November 02, 2012 - 02:06 pm:

Rob,
I hate to hear of old or historic homes being destroyed. I can't help but wonder how many were lost in hurricane Sandy. Any home fire is devastating given the irreplaceable personal property lost. Personally, I have not yet lost anything that way. But I have known a few too many people that have, and my old work used to sometimes deal with the aftermath of fires. About ten years ago,while we lived in Ferndale CA, the 110 year Victorian next door to us burned to the ground during a major storm. It had been in their family since new.
It always saddens me to hear of such losses.
But, to move on. Good luck with your T project! I believe that if you want to put together a right hand drive model T, you can do so!
Drive carefully, and enjoy, W2


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By David Dare - Just a little South West . on Friday, November 02, 2012 - 05:11 pm:

They are as rare as !!! .... well really really really rare, it just so happen l have some and if persuaded or have my palms lubricated with some folding stuff, l may just forget momentarily just how rare they are.... you do understand how rare they are, dont you !!

cheers David.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Chris Martin on Friday, November 02, 2012 - 08:30 pm:

Re James request above; I might have a spare RHD trans cover for a '26, but it is here in Australia and I guess shipping could be expensive.
Chris M.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Rob from Nova Scotia on Monday, November 05, 2012 - 08:15 am:

Russell, I need everything, to be honest. Was really looking at pricing everything up, and seeing if it was worth it or not, or if it would be easier to keep looking here in Canada. They do pop up from time to time. Just hard to track down. If anyone has any leads, I'd be quite grateful.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Russell Prideaux on Monday, November 05, 2012 - 09:42 am:

Rob, as an example I have just picked up a complete engine and gearbox. Advertised at $10. When I called him he said it was free to good home. Not sure what year it is yet, I pick it up next weekend. I don't need it, just thought it could go in the shed for "Ron" I am guessing it will need rebuilding but may help you out if i is viable to get it shipped.
I can get it to the port of Fremantle for you.
PS. I want what I paid for it


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Allan Richard Bennett on Tuesday, November 06, 2012 - 10:18 am:

Rob, it takes more than just a hogshead to do a RHD conversion. You will need a handbrake cross shaft, complete with pawl and a Quadrant for the chassis. The lower steering bracket will need to be sourced too. then there are numerous little bits to work around, like carb throttle levers, timing and throttle linkages, steering column control rods, steering tie rod and other bits I may have forgotten about. Most of it is readily available here in Australia.

Hope this helps.

Allan from down under.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Rob from Nova Scotia on Tuesday, November 06, 2012 - 06:46 pm:

I did actually have 90 percent of what I was going to need. Any pieces would be great, of course. Maybe I should be checking ebay Australia? or if any of you folks from down under could let me know what the prices would be for some of these, I could price shipping and see if it is even worthwhile


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Peter Kable on Tuesday, November 06, 2012 - 07:29 pm:

Rob, as Allan mentioned there are a lot of parts needed. With the cost of postage/shipping it may be a lot quicker and easier to source a complete chassis or even an actual car. One trip to the shipping container whole thing arrives - done.

Also There has to be some RHD remains left in Canada.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Rob from Nova Scotia on Tuesday, November 06, 2012 - 07:44 pm:

There are some, but the folks that have them are loathe to sell them. Kinda frustrating, but thats the way life goes sometimes


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Terry Horlick in Penn Valley, CA on Friday, November 09, 2012 - 11:18 am:

Don't forget the carburetor and timer linkages, the carburetor, and the timer are different. I just realized the old engine splash shields I have from my last 1913 will not fit onto my RHD '13. I have a spare RHD transmission cover (ca. 1914-1925) but I want it on the shelf in case my '13 aluminum goes south or I ever need a starter. Once you have the cover you will need a good set of pedals... I can help there.

I found that the hole pattern on the mounting flange of the 1913 RHD steering column differ from those on the LHD... go figure! While we are on the column, the Spark and Throttle controls are also different. I got my RHD steering block out of Australia, here in the US 1913 blocks make hens' teeth look common.

I have a RHD timer I am not likely to use as I like Anderson timers... but again these parts came dear and have likely found a permanent home.

The best way to find RHD stuff at the swap meets is to give up on your project and sell all your parts. Then you will find them everywhere.

When I started my project I thought that with a couple of parts I could reverse the firewall and have a RHD car. Then I could easily swap it back if I want... NOT "EASILY"! Lots of stuff needs to be permanently altered to do a swap... including drilling new holes in the frame.

IMHO, TH


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Bob from vancouver island on Friday, November 09, 2012 - 01:37 pm:

Hi Rob, I have some of the parts your looking for. A Steering column bracket the cross shaft and hand lever but is missing the pawl.Also an aluminum hogs head complete with lettered pedals,It needs some repair. The bolt hole at the right front closest to the block is gone, someone probably tried to use two felt strips between the cover and the block.I believe it's fixable. If you want them their yours for the shipping cost. Bob.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Allan Richard Bennett on Friday, November 09, 2012 - 05:07 pm:

Bob, just to ease the hunt a little. The US timers will do the job. You just install it with the pull arm at the bottom rather than the top. You will need to wire it in the usual way, as seen from the front of the car. I have seen timers here with two pull arms, so they could be installed on either LHD or RHD cars, without changing the wiring from the usual pattern.

Hope this helps.

Allan from down under


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Rob from Nova Scotia on Friday, November 09, 2012 - 05:18 pm:

PM sent to you Bob, you made my night!!!!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Bob from vancouver island on Friday, November 09, 2012 - 06:54 pm:

Hi Rob As I am new at the forum Your PM seems to be not there; what am I missing here Bob.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Rob from Nova Scotia on Friday, November 09, 2012 - 07:42 pm:

Oh, it should have been delivered to your email. Here
robert.hudson@emci.ca


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Rob from Nova Scotia on Friday, November 23, 2012 - 03:47 pm:

Model T guys are by far the best folks in the world. Just got back from the post office to pick up a 1913 hogshead, complete with pedals, handbrake, and steering mount for RHD, all for the price of postage!!!! Bob, you are the best, and deserve the accolades. Also, your check is in the mail!!!!!!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By David Dare - Just a little South West . on Saturday, November 24, 2012 - 12:58 am:

Rob, now the fun begins, have fun with those RHD comm linkages.

cheers David.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Rob from Nova Scotia on Saturday, November 24, 2012 - 05:48 am:

yeah, I need some good photos of those, or I need to find a good RHD complete steering column


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Herb Iffrig on Saturday, November 24, 2012 - 07:55 am:

Years ago one of the magazines did an article on RHD Model T Fords. It was complete with pictures.
I don't know right off hand if it was the Vintage Ford or the Model T Times, but from what I remember it would be a good resource for what you are trying to do.
Does any one have an index handy?

Herb


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Rob from Nova Scotia on Saturday, November 24, 2012 - 12:12 pm:

That would be great!! Anyone?


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