Old Photo. T Militaire New South Wales.

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Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dane Hawley Near Melbourne Australia on Sunday, November 04, 2012 - 04:01 am:



Title "Unidentified man in military uniforms working on the engine of a car, ca. 1918"


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Bob Trevan - Australia on Sunday, November 04, 2012 - 05:38 am:

Note fan surround


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Aaron Griffey, Hayward Ca. on Sunday, November 04, 2012 - 12:52 pm:

Wasn't '18 the year of the fan shroud?
Looks like the head is off the car.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dennis Seth - Ohio on Sunday, November 04, 2012 - 02:01 pm:

Looks like a tire iron sitting on the car's running board


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Hap Tucker on Sunday, November 04, 2012 - 02:13 pm:

Aaron,

Bottom Line up Front: USA cars the early 1917 models had the fan shroud. But for Canadian models we do not have any information saying when it was discontinued.

Additional details:

At: http://mtfca.com/encyclo/1917.htm Bruce (RIP) has for the 1917 USA model year:

ENGINE FAN: Driven by a leather belt from a pulley at the front of the engine. The fan hub is cast iron, with the blades riveted in place. Adjustment was by means of a bolt/nut arrangement located on the right side of the front plate and bearing against a boss on the mounting end of the fan bracket. The fan bracket (arm) was now longer and straight. Early models had a fan shroud but this was apparently discontinued during the year."

And at: http://mtfca.com/encyclo/1917-20H.htm Bruce stated, "Early 1917 cars were equipped with a fan shroud, added to aid the cooling. It may have helped but the swinging arm adjustment probably caused the fan to strike the shroud after some wear, and rather than redesigning the fan belt tension system, the shroud was discontinued."


While we do not know exactly when the USA production dropped the fan shroud, we have even less references for when the Canadian production would have dropped it. If Ford of Canada followed the USA on this part then they also would have dropped it early in 1917. But we really do not know. "IF" anyone has some dated photos that also have fan shrouds that may help us some. Especially if it was a "new car" at the time of the photo.

And yes the head is off the car as the water outlet is clearly seen hanging from the upper radiator hose. If you zoom in (for Microsoft windows Explorer users -- hold down the control key and roll the mouse wheel forward to zoom in – and there are other ways to zoom in – and the photo is still clear) I believe you will see a tin can holding the head bolts sitting on the hood shelf.

Another great photo, thank you Dane for posting it.

Respectfully submitted,

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