The Model T is the feature car at the concours this year. A lot of great Model Ts. Two two lever two two pedal and two production 1909s. A camper T. Pre T Fords include Models A, AC, C, K and N.
Tomorrow (Monday) we begin the Savannah tour portion of the trip. Incredible weather and preparation by our tour hosts, the Clark's of Savannah.
Fantastic photo's Thanks for posting.
Some day I'd like to see someone(one with talent and the guts) repaint one of those early red "T"s via the old carriage method via a proper hand brush and rub down with color varnish/enamel and clear varnishing over it.
I'm sure Ford wasn't spraying painting or hosing and dipping back then...The cars early had very acceptable finishes but not even close to what we see today..The over restored brass cars(though beautifull)always look kinda phoney. Especially the Fords. Just my Opinion
David,
One of the Early Ford Register members has painted his N by brush and rub method. Actually, the finish looks very good. I don't think the average person at a car show would notice the difference.
Our N had the original color brushed on the back seat when I removed the original leather. The paint (a brushed on number 81) was remarkably similar in color of the maroon many restored Ns are painted today. I covered up the seat back untouched so the next "restore" will see the original brush stroked color.
Rob
Hi Rob - Thank you for posting the pictures. They are great!
Keith
Who knew that a white T could look that good, it's awesome, Don.
Beautiful, beautiful cars. Thanks for posting them, Rob.
Beautiful cars! (Even the Maxwell!)
Thank you for sharing these photos.
Drive carefully, and enjoy, W2
Rob,
Can you identify which 2-Lever belongs to who
-Don
I would sure like more pics and info on the dual rear wheels on the tow truck!
Nice pictures rob. Did you catch that funny looking guy in the picture of the K trying to steal parts?
David, Don't know where you got the idea that the early brush painted cars had an ordinary finish. They were as good or better than most finishes put on cars today. Done correctly there is no brush marks, often finishes today have orange peel from being sprayed.
When I first started work ( car painter) my tech college teacher had a background from the railways here. All the rail carriages were brush painted inside and out as it was quicker than masking all the windows and fittings if they were sprayed and ventilation inside a carriage was a problem.
He still had his brushes that he used in his early days of coach painting. Our Powerhouse Museum which was mentioned in another thread here has a tram carriage that was brushed finished when it was restored for the museum by the rail way workers. The finish is so good anyone would think someone had just sprayed it with new enamel. There is no brush marks it is like a sheet of glass.
I meant to say before, when I was at college I had my Model T and the teacher let me repaint it at the college using his brushes. I heated the paint up in a pot with a hot water outer liner and it was so good as a finish most people could not believe it had been brushed. Big problem is it takes about 10 times the time and effort to get that finish which is why its rarely done now. To brush it the paint has to dry very slow compared to spraying and you need a very clean dust free area to paint in. Its possible that cars you have seen were actually brushed and you don't know they are as they look like they were sprayed.
Should have mentioned also that the original finishes were poor quality so after all the work the actual finish would quickly self destruct and would need to again be redone. One would use modern paint if you decided to brush.
Rob, you mentioned T camper, do you have a picture of it?
Thanks Peter for that explanation, I have gone to many car shows with my 15 and have be told my paint work is over restored. The comment is always the same " they were never that shiny or that nice when they were new" . While I do believe Some of fords had their share of runs, the paint was very glossy not at all dull or with brush strokes. In reverse I have seen many owners with unrestored or weathered paint refer to the as this was the way they really where.
Mike, I was describing the coach painting that was used on all vehicles at the time, Henry moved away from those paints as they were too slow to use, but his black was shiny. There are lots of photo's showing they were. I can't find the one which shows bodies in a rail car for shipment ( someone have that one?)but this one shows the shine is as good as any you will find on anything.
Is the last pictured car at the show Nevy Clark's Fire Chief's car? Been a very long time since I've seen it. Sadly, I haven't been able to visit the Clark's any of the numerous times I've been down there.
great model...
its really amazing thread...can feel like 50 yrs back
cars
Here's the rail car Pic...I copied it because it's a 26-27 coupe and wanted to show people how shinny the paint was back then...and
I don't see how they can't get scratched shipping like this..ya know
Eric, thats the one - thanks
Peter Kable said
"David, Don't know where you got the idea that the early brush painted cars had an ordinary finish."
Never said oridnary!
Peter Kable said
"They were as good or better than most finishes put on cars today. Done correctly there is no brush marks, often finishes today have orange peel from being sprayed."
Than says
"Should have mentioned also that the original finishes were poor quality so after all the work the actual finish would quickly self destruct and would need to again be redone"
LMAO,, Good or better than today...But of poor quailty! I'm on the floor laughing so hard!
Are you a Politician? flip flop Kidding...I already know I'm an -ssm you don't have to tell me!
It is a matter of semantics. You can read whatever you want into whatever anyone says. I think most people understand exactly what Peter meant when he said that the FINISH was as good or better than the FINISH on most cars today. Then he states that they would DETERIORATE rather quickly.
Based on my 65 years of being able to read and write, several college degrees, having written and edited dozens of articles, having written several books and having edited several more along with teaching school from Kindergarten to college level during 17 years in the public education system; the most difficult part of writing is having a reader competent to interpret what was written.
Couple all that with two cultures separated by a common language! I think David M S knew what Peter K meant. It just looked funnier from his side of the world. I had noticed it also and chuckled, but I knew exactly what he meant.
Drive carefully, and wear a funny hat! W2