Wood Felloe Wheel ID Plate

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Model T Ford Forum: Forum 2012: Wood Felloe Wheel ID Plate
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Hervey Purcell on Sunday, November 04, 2012 - 07:45 pm:

Several T supplier catalogs show part # 2801 which is the steel connecting plate for wood felloe wheels as plain (1909-12), H (Hayes 1912-17) or P (Prudden 1912-17). All of my wheels are marked with a K. Does anyone have any info on this.

Hervey


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Hap Tucker on Sunday, November 04, 2012 - 08:22 pm:

Hervey

Kelsey was a major supplier of wheels to Ford. and I'm 90% sure the K would have stood for Kelsey. I do not have any documentation on the wood felloe wheels that directly says that, but we do have documentation on the demountable rim wheels that they were supplied by Kelsey (also Hayes, Firestone, Cleveland, Ford and others). And we know that Kelsey did mark some other items with a "K."

Note also that in MTFCI Judging Standards for the 1914 cars they list the wheels should be marked with the wheel makers I.D. (H,P, or K)....The latest guidelines are available from Russ Furstnow (see: MTFCI JUDGING GUIDELINES BOOK version 6 fall of 2011
http://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/179374/229859.html?1314075351#POST360961 ) or you can order them for a little more money from the vendors.


Assuming your car has the wooden round felloe wheels and is a 1914 a "K" marking would be correct for that car.

Looking at your profile it appears this is your first posting. Welcome to the forum. Please let us know if you are new to Model Ts or if you have been around them a while or for years etc. It just helps us know what to offer to the new owner that would be "old hat" for the old owner etc. For example if you are new to Ts we would recommend finding and joining the local Model T club nearest you etc. Also for anyone with a Model T if they do not have a copy of Bruce's (RIP) "Model T Comprehensive Encyclopedia" I would suggest they obtain a copy of that excellent reference tool. Available for order at: http://www.modelt.org/index.php?option=com_aclassf&Itemid=17&ct=veh3&md=details& id=211 It also includes the "Model T Ford Service Manual" that is very helpful in keep the car going.

Also -- please take a look at the posting “Home for the Holidays” at: http://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/29/40322.html and let us know if you find a body number and/or letter on your car's body.

Again, welcome aboard!

Respectfully submitted,

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Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Hervey Purcell on Monday, November 05, 2012 - 11:24 am:

Thanks for the info. I have been around for a long time, but this is the first time that I notices the K on my wheels. I have a rear wheel that has a wobble that we cannot get out and I was looking into having another built and was thinking about getting new parts when I found that only plain, P or H was offered.

Hervey


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Wayne Sheldon, Grass Valley, CA on Monday, November 05, 2012 - 06:11 pm:

Make your own! I have, several times in the past and again real soon, put raised wording in sheet steel by placing the steel on the end of a 4X4 wood post and pounding various punches, chisels, and even letter stamps into the steel. The end grain does a decent job of backing up the steel, but will give directly where punched. Remember, you are writing backwards, although a "K" really wouldn't matter.
That is what I would do.
Drive carefully, and enjoy, W2


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Larry Smith on Tuesday, November 06, 2012 - 11:05 am:

I'm going to paint a K wheel today. Been working on it for a week. It's a 30 X 3 1/2.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Wayne Sheldon, Grass Valley, CA on Tuesday, November 06, 2012 - 04:25 pm:

I am still working part time on my ten wood felly wheels. Three of them are Kelsey, all rears. Two of those have joint cover plates that look like the common oval like the "H" & "P" except with a "K". The other, which has very old repaint exactly matching one of the others, has a joint cover plate that is a totally different shape and extends almost to the rim. All three "K"s are slightly different sizes and depth of stamping. so if you do decide to make one, they varied a lot and you wouldn't have to exactly match one.
Drive carefully, and wear a funny hat! W2


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jack Daron - Brownsburg IN on Tuesday, November 06, 2012 - 05:19 pm:

I have some extras and even have some with Ford script on them.


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