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Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dave Huson, Berthoud, Co. on Saturday, November 24, 2012 - 02:07 am:

Mike Robinson was asking for pictures of some of the original Ford Shop Tools. I have a few and would like to post some pictures. The first picture is Carburetor Flange Tools. Every one knows that it is not and easy bolt to get to on the back side of the Carburetor Flange. these tools were sold for that purpose. The Catalogs list the top one with dhe double sockets as also used on the generator bolts they are 5/8". The bottom one is one I made out an original spark plug wrench.

carburetor flange wrenches


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dave Huson, Berthoud, Co. on Wednesday, November 28, 2012 - 04:03 pm:

I forgot to put the name and number of the flange tools.

The top double end tool is a 5 - Z -817 tool with ford stamped on it.

The two single socket end tools are Bog tools with no numbers. I find what few Bog tools I find that Bog Model T Tools to be good tools.

The next tool is a stewart speedometer drive gear mounting fixture. The round center part goes inside the wheel where the bearing usually goes

A944


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dave Huson, Berthoud, Co. on Wednesday, November 28, 2012 - 04:47 pm:

The fixture above is for the 60 tooth speedometer drive Gears, the fixture below is for three other smaller gears, like the Ford Special speedometer heads. Again the round part of the fixture goes into the drum. On the fixture above you tap on the other end of the sharp points and make a dent in the spokes. That is where you drill your holes for the screws that hold the gear to the wheel.

A945


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Herb Iffrig on Wednesday, November 28, 2012 - 05:54 pm:

Thank you Dave. I now know more than I dis before I read your post!
I had never seen reference to those tools.

Herb


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dave Huson, Berthoud, Co. on Wednesday, November 28, 2012 - 10:34 pm:

Herb Iffrig:

Thanks for the response. I have a picture of a tool I have the trouble truck take on tours when I am wagon boss. When someone breaks an axle you can bolt this device to the backing plate and then install your wheel. That will allow you to be pushed around and loaded on the vulture wagon and unloaded when you get home. This picture was taken on a Center Door with a broken axle on one of the earlier Colorado/Wyoming Tour South of Walden, Colorado.

broken Axle Fixture


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dave Huson, Berthoud, Co. on Wednesday, November 28, 2012 - 10:35 pm:

Broken Axle Fixture


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dave Huson, Berthoud, Co. on Thursday, November 29, 2012 - 12:58 pm:

I am having a lot of trouble working with a new photo program. Kodak sold their photo program that I have used for years, so I hope the following picture is posted. This is a shop wheel puller, I have never seen any others like it. I doubt that many had this puller other than Ford Shops.

Wheel Puller

If you can see the square shaft handle with the hole that is where a brass handle went. I used to be able to spin the puller on with one finger using the brass handle then tighten the puller. The brass handle broke and I have never got around to fixing it so I just use a 5.8 open end wrench. Note: this is one of my most used original tools.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dave Huson, Berthoud, Co. on Thursday, November 29, 2012 - 12:59 pm:

Wheel Puller


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Steve Tomaso - Milton,WA on Thursday, November 29, 2012 - 03:41 pm:

I agree Dave - that puller is also the "work-horse" in my shop for rear wheel removal. Here are several photos of my mostly "Ford" shop tools.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Ron Patterson-Nicholasville, Kentucky on Thursday, November 29, 2012 - 03:46 pm:

18-Z-245
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Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jack Daron - Brownsburg IN on Thursday, November 29, 2012 - 04:49 pm:

Here are a few of my 40+ year collection.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Steve Tomaso - Milton,WA on Thursday, November 29, 2012 - 05:34 pm:

Nice Jack - I like the rear end lifting set !!!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jack Daron - Brownsburg IN on Thursday, November 29, 2012 - 05:50 pm:

Steve,it is hand forged from two Model T rear axles.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dave Huson, Berthoud, Co. on Thursday, November 29, 2012 - 07:24 pm:

Jack Daron:

What is the small black tool in the center of the lifter ?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dave Huson, Berthoud, Co. on Thursday, November 29, 2012 - 07:32 pm:

Steve Tamaso:

What are the two black pullers just to the right of your two spoke stretchers in the first picture ?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jack Daron - Brownsburg IN on Thursday, November 29, 2012 - 07:36 pm:

Dave,that is an Allen puller for removing broken outer race from a Gen. (I had to ask Ron P.)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Ron Patterson-Nicholasville, Kentucky on Thursday, November 29, 2012 - 07:36 pm:

Dave
Not to steal Jack's answer, but that tool is an Allen Electric Model T generator brush cap bearing puller. It came in the box of many tools for the Allen Electric generator tester.
Ron the Coilman


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Steve Tomaso - Milton,WA on Thursday, November 29, 2012 - 08:23 pm:

Dave,

One in front removes spindle arm bushings and the rear one removes the front spring perch from the axle.

I collect mostly "Stevens Speed-Up" tools but have KR Wilson also.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Keith Gumbinger, Kenosha, WI on Thursday, November 29, 2012 - 08:36 pm:

Unca Jack - Could you please loan he that one right there in the center?

Thanks, Keith :-)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jack Daron - Brownsburg IN on Thursday, November 29, 2012 - 08:58 pm:

Which picture?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Keith Gumbinger, Kenosha, WI on Thursday, November 29, 2012 - 09:14 pm:

You know, the one with the well used patina on it and Ford script too....

Seriously, I think there could be a market for the rear end lifting set, made from hand forged rear axle shafts.

Keith


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dave Huson, Berthoud, Co. on Thursday, November 29, 2012 - 10:00 pm:

The original Ford Shop Tool that I would hate to loose the most is the Stevens Rear Axle Race Puller. I have guys from Northern Colorado bring me their rear axles to work on including sometimes just removing the race for them. The Stevens Rear axle race puller is the best by far for doing that. people are so enamored over KRW and Z tools that they overlook the other original tools.

rear axle race puller


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dave Huson, Berthoud, Co. on Thursday, November 29, 2012 - 10:03 pm:

I am afraid the picture not show the handles on top of the picture bery well. On real tough races I sometime use a cheater on the handles. But this is very very seldom needed. I have had this tool for about 30 years and have only found one race that I could not pull.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jack Daron - Brownsburg IN on Thursday, November 29, 2012 - 10:06 pm:

I agree with Dave on this one. A friend of mine has one and let me use it many years ago. I wish I could find one. Dave has a lot of very nice tools,I hope he shows us more of them.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dave Huson, Berthoud, Co. on Thursday, November 29, 2012 - 10:39 pm:

I would like to show a couple more rear axle race pullers. I hope the pictures show. I am having a tough time with the new program since Kodax sold theirs. If the picture shows the large read one the left is for trucks. I bought these many years ago for little of nothing thinking that if I only have to use it one truck they will pay for them selves. I spotted them somewhere and knew what they were by the round thing sticking out at the bottom that all rear axle pullers must have. As near as I can tell the company name is CANTRELL. The smaller one of coarse is for cars.

Pr Rear Axlee Race Pullers


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Kim Dobbins on Friday, November 30, 2012 - 05:59 pm:

Here's a couple of my favorite tools. The Stevens drive shaft kit and the transmission bushing tools.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dave Huson, Berthoud, Co. on Friday, November 30, 2012 - 06:13 pm:

Kim Dobbins:

I have the same kit but am missing the center tool that goes down and grabs the front torque tube bushing. Ill find it one of these days. I also don't have the little round black tool in the lower right hand corner (what is that?)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dave Huson, Berthoud, Co. on Friday, November 30, 2012 - 06:20 pm:

I hope this picture is not too small to see. I had to ask the guy I bought it from at a swap meet what it is for. Its the most usless shop tool I think I have. I usually don't buy a tool that I don' think I am going to use but this was so unusual that I bought it any way. It is just a wall hanger. I would like to see if anyone can ID this tool. If not I will explain it in a couple of days.

Whatzit


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dave Huson, Berthoud, Co. on Friday, November 30, 2012 - 06:27 pm:

I will take another picture of the whatzit tool and see if I can repost it.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Steve Tomaso - Milton,WA on Friday, November 30, 2012 - 07:48 pm:

Nice Kim - I have both of those kits also but my Driveshaft kit has the later style inner sleeve puller - my wife found it - no kidding ! I was fortunate enough to find the Stevens starter & generator rebuild kit also - will take a photo tomorrow. Might have to show a photo of the Stevens "Extra Hand" manifold holder that I purchased from you too.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jack Daron - Brownsburg IN on Friday, November 30, 2012 - 07:57 pm:

Dave that black thing is a pinion gear puller. I have the set also. I found a set of valve seat refacers at a junk shop for $5. They are Sioux.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dave Huson, Berthoud, Co. on Friday, November 30, 2012 - 09:06 pm:

I bought this valve tool last year at the Loveland, Colorado Swap meet. It is a cast iron valve tool unlike the steel ones you see so many of at swap meets and auctions. It has Loveland Ohio in very heavy embossing but no company name. Another wall hanger but I got it because I thought it looked kind of neat.

Valve Tool


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Doug Money - Braidwood, IL on Friday, November 30, 2012 - 09:23 pm:

This is what I got this summer.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dave Huson, Berthoud, Co. on Friday, November 30, 2012 - 09:24 pm:

Jack Daron:

I should have recognized the pinion puller I have the same one in my set. Boy are they handy.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dave Huson, Berthoud, Co. on Friday, November 30, 2012 - 09:25 pm:

I am going to try one more time to post this whatzit tool and see if anyone recognizes it.

whatzit 1


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dave Huson, Berthoud, Co. on Friday, November 30, 2012 - 09:40 pm:

Doug Money:

That is a nice set. I have a few of them but I don't use them much because I do not find it necessary to change bushing in the drums. I almost never find them worn. The green bible says you can have .005 clearance with no problems. I almost never find that and when I do I have a surplus of good bushings out of cracked drums. I far trust the brass in the original bushings than I do the reproduction ones. I do however always replace the triple gear bushing as I have NEVER found any that the ridge was not worn allowing the triple gears to ride against the fly wheel.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dave Huson, Berthoud, Co. on Friday, November 30, 2012 - 09:44 pm:

Doug Money:

I forgot to say I see that the set is a Stevens. Stevens made a lot of very good tools for the shops in those days. A lot of my better tools are stevens, even my tire changer.

Stevens Tire Changer


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dave Huson, Berthoud, Co. on Friday, November 30, 2012 - 10:16 pm:

Another Tool that I frequently use and would really hate to lose is the Manifold Clamp. This clamps the exhaust manifold to the block while you install the intake manifold. The spring is so strong I can hardly squeeze it. It sure make the job of installing the manifolds a lot easier. Its another Stevens.

Manifold Clamp 1

Manifold Clamp 2


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Doug Money - Braidwood, IL on Friday, November 30, 2012 - 10:18 pm:

The sticker says it is a No. 4 set, but it has 17 pieces in it. I thought the number was a reference to the number of pieces. I might be wrong.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dave Huson, Berthoud, Co. on Friday, November 30, 2012 - 10:27 pm:

I will try the pictures again. The computer says they well under 200 KB but they still are too large.

manifold clamp 1

manifold Clamp 2


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Doug Money - Braidwood, IL on Saturday, December 01, 2012 - 04:11 am:

Nice clamp Dave, never seen one of those before.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dave Huson, Berthoud, Co. on Saturday, December 01, 2012 - 12:15 pm:

Doug Money:

I have only seen a couple of them around at swap meets. I bought one at Chickasha (my second) but a friend saw me with it and asked if I would sell it to him, so I did. I did not even get off the grounds with it.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dave Huson, Berthoud, Co. on Saturday, December 01, 2012 - 12:18 pm:

When ever I install new brakes, emergency or trani, I always use this brake checker. I had the ends that clamp around the wheel wrapped in tape so it would not mar the wheel but it looks like I wore most of it off.

Brake Checker


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dave Huson, Berthoud, Co. on Saturday, December 01, 2012 - 12:19 pm:

Brake Checker


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dave Huson, Berthoud, Co. on Saturday, December 01, 2012 - 01:39 pm:

Many years ago I had a friend who restored a 26 T. I would go backwards but not forward. After a lot of searching he found that one of his rear axle brake drums had a low spot. the brake shoes could pass by it going backwards but would activate the brake shoes going forward. A different brake shoe and the problem solved. The low spot was not noticeable. I found this drum checker and use it when replacing a rear axle brake drum. It is a Bear MFG Co. Rock Island Illinois fixture #1432, DRUM MIC.

Drum Mic


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dave Huson, Berthoud, Co. on Saturday, December 01, 2012 - 06:37 pm:

Vintage Ford calls the two tools below cam gear pullers. I have also read somewhere that they are steering wheel pullers. That is what I use them for. I can find no embossing on the Red one. The other puller has L 1000 on one of the legs and HM 132 B on the handle but no company name. All I can say is they are super good at pulling steering wheels.

cam pullers


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Kohnke Rebabbitting on Sunday, December 02, 2012 - 02:08 pm:

Here are some pictures of some Wilson work benches I have. They were sold through the Catalog.

I have two of the Large Benches.

Two of the Generator, and Starter benches.

One of the Mechanic's Bench.

Many guys have not seen any of these, so here they are.



Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Steve Tomaso - Milton,WA on Sunday, December 02, 2012 - 08:17 pm:

Where in the heck did you find those benches, Herm ?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Kohnke Rebabbitting on Sunday, December 02, 2012 - 08:36 pm:

Old Ford Garage Sale, about 47 years ago, Steve.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dave Huson, Berthoud, Co. on Monday, December 03, 2012 - 11:46 pm:

A very unusual tool used in the Model T hay day. Its a cartridge holder for cutting holes in windshields for the Clymer through the windshield spotlights. Embossing on the tool says that This tool is leased and not sold. It remains the property of FYRAC MANUFACTURING CO. Rockfor Ill.The Title reads also Fyrac-Clymer. The It also reads "night guide safty light"

I hope I can post a picture????

Clymer Tool


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dave Huson, Berthoud, Co. on Monday, December 03, 2012 - 11:48 pm:

Clymer Spot Light Tool


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dave Huson, Berthoud, Co. on Monday, December 03, 2012 - 11:56 pm:

When I try to post picture I have been getting some weird stuff. But I will try again.

Clymer Tool


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dave Huson, Berthoud, Co. on Monday, December 03, 2012 - 11:58 pm:

Clymer Tool


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dave Huson, Berthoud, Co. on Tuesday, December 04, 2012 - 04:27 am:

cartridge holder


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dave Huson, Berthoud, Co. on Tuesday, December 04, 2012 - 04:33 am:

cartridge holdercartridge Holder.JPG


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Rick J. Gunter on Wednesday, December 05, 2012 - 11:37 am:

One thing that I would like to have more info on is the size and markings on the different bushing reamers and drivers; and what bushings they are used on. Does anyone know of such a list in any book or online?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Bob McDonald-Federal Way, Wa. on Wednesday, December 05, 2012 - 12:11 pm:

No Pics Dave on my end.

Bob


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dave Huson, Berthoud, Co. on Wednesday, December 05, 2012 - 12:36 pm:

Bob McDonald:

Sorry about the pictures, Every since Kodak sold their rights to their picture program I have been having trouble posting pictures. I have a terrible time getting them in my files and when I finally do and click on post I get two different messages but no pictures. One of the messages says that someone or something is already using the program and to wait 5 seconds and try again. When I wait and finally try again all I get is the YOUR IMAGE HERE signs above. Maybe I have a problem in my computer
I still have a lot on interesting old Ford Shop Tools that I would like to post, but I give up.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dave Huson, Berthoud, Co. on Wednesday, December 05, 2012 - 12:39 pm:

Rick Gunter:

Most of my old reamers say FORD on them. If I get time today I will try and get you some numbers. Which reamers are you particularly interested in ???


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dan Hatch on Wednesday, December 05, 2012 - 01:34 pm:

The reamers I have have a number that is the number of the bushing that it reams.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Rick J. Gunter on Friday, December 07, 2012 - 11:13 am:

Right now I am mainly interested in the numbers of the reamers for the spindle bushings, front and rear spring shackle bushings, drive shaft, and maybe those used for transmission rebuild.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Doug Money - Braidwood, IL on Friday, December 07, 2012 - 11:47 am:

Will this help?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Bob McDonald-Federal Way, Wa. on Friday, December 07, 2012 - 12:22 pm:

Dave

I know he problem, have that happen also. Just keep up the great postings and all is well,
Do you know how Dan Robitaille is doing?
Bob


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dave Huson, Berthoud, Co. on Friday, December 07, 2012 - 01:54 pm:

Bob McDonald:

I understand the Dan has stopped doing upholstery work for people. I also understand that his lungs or heart are giving him a lot of problems. Other than that I have not seen or talked with Dan in over a year. Dan's upholstery work was the best I have ever seen. It's too bad that he is not able to do upholstery work anymore.

As far as the pictures of the tools that I use are, I think I will hire someone to come in and help me. There is a fellow here locally that even goes to Asia to do Computer work. He has done work for me in the past and is very reasonable. I can still post my old Kodak file pictures but not the new ones.

One thing that has improved is I don't always have to type in my Username and Password every time.

picture


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dave Huson, Berthoud, Co. on Friday, December 07, 2012 - 01:59 pm:

The tool in the picture above is a Clymer cartridge holder for install Clymer through the windshield spot lights. I thought that it probably used sand but I don't know, I have never used it even though I have some Clymer spot lights and I think they really look neat on a car. I do find that a fair number of windshields either have spot lights or at least did.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jack Daron - Brownsburg IN on Friday, December 07, 2012 - 03:09 pm:

I had one of those and I donated it to museum last year. They are not that common.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dave Huson, Berthoud, Co. on Friday, December 07, 2012 - 11:35 pm:

Jack Daron:

How do you suppose it was used, I don't have a clue.


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