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Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Eric Flower on Wednesday, November 28, 2012 - 08:45 pm:

What would you guys pay for this..it's a 1923 TT
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Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By George_Cherry Hill NJ on Wednesday, November 28, 2012 - 09:40 pm:

Eric,

Hold onto your hat this is going to be fun...let's see how east coast/west coast and the midwest chime in :-)

Were I to be thinking of going for it, based on what I see I'd start lower and hope to score but my tops would be $1200, maybe up to $300 more if there was some treasure or other asset on inspection...yeah, I know, take it apart and flea bay it and it could yield more...but I don't do that. As rough as it looks, there appears to be a good bunch to start with based on the pix.

Now, thats just from my gut, no other reason to arrive at that number. TT can either be a plus or a liability depending on who buys. Something about starting out 1/2 hour early before the other guys to get at the same place/same time and usually needing to drive home alone or get to the ice cream stop as everyone else is starting their engines again to leave :-) Yes, you can do things to make that part livable, but they too cost $$$$


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By mike peterson on Wednesday, November 28, 2012 - 10:34 pm:

$750


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Steve Jelf, Parkerfield KS on Wednesday, November 28, 2012 - 10:58 pm:

$500 for the cab, $500 for the bed, and $300 for the rest.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mack Cole ---- Earth on Wednesday, November 28, 2012 - 10:58 pm:

Most of those type cabs around here are rusted away.
That 1 appears solid.Also I think it is a 26-7 cab.
Is the bed Ford?

I would say around here the asking price would be around 2000 and the gitten price around 1600


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By John P. Steele, Montana on Wednesday, November 28, 2012 - 11:26 pm:

I think the cab looks pretty solid. The question is are most of the parts there? I see the steering column, but no steering wheel, shaft, timer or throttle rods, etc. Are the wheels good or does the wood need to be replaced. Gathering parts starts to add up quickly especially with postage or freight. If a guy wants to build a truck whether you pay $1000 or $1500 doesn't make much difference. If you looking for one to drive, buy one that's done, or at least complete. If most of the parts are there $1500 may not be out of line. If the wheels need new wood and stuff is missing I don't think I would go over $1000. Are you buying or selling?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Paul Nicholson on Wednesday, November 28, 2012 - 11:54 pm:

Well, if Mike P says it's worth 750, then it's worth 1500 retail. Unless Mike owns it, then it's worth 2500!!!! LOL I haven't picked on Mike in a while---Sorry, I couldn't resist. I think I see the bottom of an aux trans hanging down too. So quit teasing us Eric and let us know what your thinking!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Eric Flower on Thursday, November 29, 2012 - 01:01 am:

I was thinking around $1800 for it but I would hate to insult the guy ....he's wanting $3000 for it...
It's been up for sale for awhile so I'll just wait a little longer then we'll see.....lol


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mark Stewart -Calif. on Thursday, November 29, 2012 - 01:07 am:

It would sale at our swap meet here for around $750 tops. Two years ago we auctioned a complete running TT like that for $2500.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Aaron Griffey, Hayward Ca. on Thursday, November 29, 2012 - 01:56 am:

$500, 1500 if it has a good title.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Scott Gilham Bellflower Ca. on Thursday, November 29, 2012 - 02:13 am:

3000 is way too much. Your 1800 offer is high for me, but if you're going to keep it and you could get it for that, maybe 1800 is ok. I know here in SoCal if you took the time to strip it down and tried to sell the parts you most likely wouldn't get your money back at the T swap meets. Things that could save you are, High Speed Gear set (in good condition)Aux. Trans (in good condition) The cab is nice enough and you do have a choice of 2 set's of fenders and 3 radiators. If it had an express bed I'd be interested ;)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By mike peterson on Thursday, November 29, 2012 - 07:57 am:

$750, , $1800, $2500 any of them are to high, even if it was given to u, u would have more than its worth when u restore it. u can by a nice driver for that 4000 to 6000 range


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dan Killecut on Thursday, November 29, 2012 - 08:32 am:

A cab like this sold at Hershey this year for $1300. It was nice, but not near as nice as what this one looks like.
Another question: is that a Ford script bed on it? That would make it worth more.
If you look at asking prices in the classified section of the MTFCA for TT parts, it brings more into perspective of what this truck is worth.
Looks like this would be a fairly easy restoration. I feel it is worth between 2 and 3 thousand dollars. As with most all T projects like this, you can go out and buy a decent one, already done for less than what you would have into it.
As far as the drive-ability, I have a 20 TT with a Ruckstell and a Warford, that I can drive at a safe Model T speed. Which I figure is around 35mph. I try not to drive my cars much faster than that.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mike Garrison on Thursday, November 29, 2012 - 10:25 am:

Without the goodies like the aux tranny etc. If they were gone so all you had was a basic TT I'd say it's worth, now hold your hat because I'm almost agreeing with Mike P but I'd have to say <$750.00. They had one here in St Cloud that sat on top of a mound of dirt at an auto dealer for many years. I think the name of it was St Joe Auto. I called and asked him the price. He said $7000.00. He said he didn't know if it would run, the tires were old. It was a restorable truck but it needed a lot of work. I thought that complete truck should have been around $1500.00 to $2000.00.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Paul Nicholson on Thursday, November 29, 2012 - 10:29 am:

Mike is right and it sums up a lot of restored cars, some where along the line, someone "took it in the shorts" when they sold it! It has to be a labor of love. Now if I would have only won that lottery!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By john kuehn on Thursday, November 29, 2012 - 10:39 am:

When you find a TT or T car in this shape you usually wind up getting replacement body sheet metal or better chassis parts.
When getting it home and doing a close inspection thats what usually happens.
Its in pretty decent shape but consider what it will take to get everything back in shape because of deteoration.
Just a thought in determining the price.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Stan Howe Helena, Montana on Thursday, November 29, 2012 - 10:43 am:

Just the doors are worth 350-500 each. If you don't think so just go to Chickasha with a set of nice ones -- you won't have any trouble selling them. The driver's door in good condition is almost impossible to find. This one looks good. With the doors, that is a $1000 cab if it is not rusted out around the bottom edges.

As far as it costing more to restore it than it's worth, aren't they all like that??? Do you want one to restore or one just to drive?? If all you want is one to drive, they are easy to find and pretty cheap. Is this your first T?? Looks like a good start for an amateur restoration. It looks to me like it is all there and the trucks are pretty simple, putting it back together should be no problem.

Personally, I would just get it running and fix the brakes, wheels, tires, etc., and drive it like it is.

All of that said, I have two square cab trucks and a C cab truck for sale that I can't even get any body to come look at. I have one that is all complete, script bed, all that, can't get a looker. I have another one with new tires, all parts, good cab, can't get a looker. So my thinking is that the one you are looking at will get cheaper before too much longer. If you don't get this one there are other ones out there. I'd offer the guy $1500, which he won't take, leave my phone number and wait for him to call. I don't think he'll get the three grand or much over $1500 out of it.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mike Garrison on Thursday, November 29, 2012 - 10:46 am:

You're right John. The question becomes, do you want to restore it for resale or to have your own TT. If I was going to buy it I'd probably sink way more money into it than it's worth but when I was done I'd have a TT and I'd be happier than a hog in an acre of s_it.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Kevin Crouch on Thursday, November 29, 2012 - 01:45 pm:

Them doors alone are worth $500 a piece, it is very difficult to find good doors or any doors for that matter for the steel closed cabs.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By mike peterson on Thursday, November 29, 2012 - 01:58 pm:

hmmmm I better put a set of TT doors on ebay and see what there worth


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Ken Kopsky, Lytle TX on Thursday, November 29, 2012 - 02:15 pm:

That would be an extremely rare closed cab TT if it's a 23. It could be worth $50K+. :-)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By John Semprez-Templeton, CA on Thursday, November 29, 2012 - 02:22 pm:

Eric, This is a case of fools gold!

These deals are very tough. He thinks it's worth $3K but will end up selling it for $1K or less after you have educated him. Problem is, he'll likely never sell it to you!

Maw or Paw will finally tell him to get that junk out of the yard, so he'll sell it to the first guy that comes along and offers him any money at all for it.

I would offer him a reasonable price leave your phone # and wait.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By mike conrad on Thursday, November 29, 2012 - 03:25 pm:

I wouid walk from this one. As a good driver or a cheap resto. Project consider price for new tires, a good radiator and were do you even start on drivetrain rebuild? As said before this is the case with most all T's true but look at the large gap in price between cars and TT trucks. I also believe TT's are not rare and neither is this opportunity


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By scott thayer-Ohio on Thursday, November 29, 2012 - 03:38 pm:

one just sold on ebay for 7500.00 that needed alot of work,no hood,interior parts missing.i was looking at it and bid 1100.00 i thought that was plenty,i am still on yesterdays prices.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Kevin Crouch on Thursday, November 29, 2012 - 04:07 pm:

TT's are catchin up with the cars as far as prices.....def. not in speed......LOL....but I'm about to put some high speed gears in mine so I can try and keep up.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By mike peterson on Thursday, November 29, 2012 - 04:23 pm:

at them wanting $3000 for that pile of peices, ebay item # 281018850073 is a lot better deal


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Fred Wicker on Thursday, November 29, 2012 - 05:30 pm:

In Va. as/is about $700.00


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mike Garrison on Thursday, November 29, 2012 - 07:23 pm:

I think it would be wise to stay away from that TT Mike P is talking about. If you read the posting real close you'll notice it's from North Dakota.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Stan Howe Helena, Montana on Thursday, November 29, 2012 - 07:56 pm:

What's the problem with it being from North Dakota?
It looks like a pretty nice truck to me.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mike Garrison on Thursday, November 29, 2012 - 07:58 pm:

Oh, come on Stan, you're from Montana. You know about those guys from North Dakota. Especially the ones that still own Model T's. You know.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By scott thayer-Ohio on Thursday, November 29, 2012 - 08:39 pm:

offer the guy what you feel comfortable paying the worst he can say is NO!..maybe call you a couple names


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Wayne Sheldon, Grass Valley, CA on Thursday, November 29, 2012 - 10:02 pm:

Location! Location! Location! I have known about Stan's trucks for sale for more than a year. I have been tempted to be interested. But like a lot of Dave Huson's come by and pick it up for free stuff, I just cannot reconcile the gas to go get them.
I see a lot of people asking a lot of money for TT trucks and parts. Once in a while they get that money. Also, I have had opportunities for Trucks or parts for very cheap and close to home, and have passed them up because I really don't need another project. I don't have forever you know! I still get tempted, and would like another TT. I have several ideas I would like to put together.

I would also reiterate that those doors are worth more than all the rest of that truck without the doors.
Drive carefully, and enjoy, W2


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dave Huson, Berthoud, Co. on Thursday, November 29, 2012 - 10:57 pm:

Eric Flower:

You may not believe it but I got $15.00 apiece for two TTs at an auction, and they were full of T parts in the bed. At the time I was living in town and had no where to store the trucks or the parts. I will admit that both trucks did not have a motor but were otherwise complete.

Side Bar: Uncle Bennie's Hardware has a TT. I didn't look at it but did see that it had a rear end and cab. Judging from the rest of his prices it would be dirt cheap. I would be glad to show anyone where it is before it ends up in a scrap yard. The next time I am at his place I will ask what he wants for it in case someone is willing to haul it away. I doubt that there is a motor but it was behind so much stuff that it was hard to see and I was busy loading up other things.
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Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dave Huson, Berthoud, Co. on Thursday, November 29, 2012 - 11:06 pm:

right side of truck


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Sean Gregory on Friday, November 30, 2012 - 01:25 am:

I kind of feel like I payed too much for my TT project, but I also had no experience with buying vehicles before. So the guy probably got more than he should have. So anyway there are people out there who pay more than what other people think it's worth.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Wayne Sheldon, Grass Valley, CA on Friday, November 30, 2012 - 04:47 pm:

Sean,
Two words of advice. NO REGRETS! From your postings, it looks like you did just fine. Get in there, start rebuilding your truck into what you will enjoy. There is an old saying, I don't think I can get it quite right, but something like this, "the joy of the item will last long beyond the memory of the money".
I would probably be willing to bet that I could have almost everything I would need to put together a good TT within a year for under $500. But, I already have most everything that is not specifically truck, so that makes it easier and cheap. And I think I know where I could get a few truck parts already. Plus, I am a world-class scrounge and cheapskate (mostly because I have to be due to my family).
You did okay. Have fun.
Drive carefully, and enjoy, W2


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