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Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Joseph Magedanz on Wednesday, November 28, 2012 - 09:44 pm:

I’ve always wanted one of these post drills, and I finally saw this one on eBay and decided to just get it. It is in really good mechanical condition and operates smoothly and drills very nicely. It is a Buffalo Forge 65R model. Not sure how old, probably not that old since the large flat belt pulley is also grooved for a V belt.

post drill

One question: the hole for the drill bits is ˝” with a set screw. I assume I need to find a set of drill bits all with ˝” shanks; otherwise the bits are pushed off center when the set screw is tightened up.
Or I may just put in a chuck with a ˝” bolt mounting and use that for now.
Anyway, it is a neat toy, and I’m glad I got it.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By John Page on Wednesday, November 28, 2012 - 11:21 pm:

Here is one I have had for years. It is a Buffalo.
For ease of use I fitted a keyed chuck.
Regards, John




Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By George_Cherry Hill NJ on Wednesday, November 28, 2012 - 11:46 pm:

Joe,

Cute find. As John says, it might be more fun to add a chuck and then just do normal drills from there.

I don't know enough about the picture or the product, but you may want to check that 1/2" again...it may be missing a jaw chuck, or, it just may take taper shank drills that self center on insert. In which case a new swap meet quest, taper shanked drills :-) That said, I like Johns idea even better!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By A. J. "Art" Bell on Thursday, November 29, 2012 - 03:05 am:

Look for bits variously referred to as S & D, Silver and Deming,
Prentice or Blacksmith drills. They will have 1/2” shanks in sizes
over ˝” and you may even be able to find some of the original
(and period correct) ‘Blacksmith” bits with a single flat side for the
retaining screw. Making a ˝” shank chuck for the smaller sizes
would make things easier, but the slow drilling speed is not really
ideal for very small drill sizes
Here are a couple of views for comparison.





Regards
Art


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By John Page on Thursday, November 29, 2012 - 04:15 am:

I have the original chuck along with a few of the original drill bits.

I don't use the drill much any more as I have a modern drill press and I can gear it up or down depending on the job at hand.

Regards, John

Original Chuck


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Steve Blancard on Thursday, November 29, 2012 - 06:49 am:

I've got one too! Mine's a Champion Blower and Forge #4-1/2. It weighs around 200 lbs and works great. Has 2 speeds and automatic downfeed. I just picked up a new 1/2" chuck with straight 1/2" arbor off Ebay. With a sharp bit, it will drill through steel plate with ease.

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drill2


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mike Garrison on Thursday, November 29, 2012 - 10:34 am:

I had one with a few drill bits. I thought it was neat and put it on the wall right next to my work bench. My Leg vice was mounted to the bench by it and I had a 200 lb anvil and a few blacksmith tools on the wall by it. I always kept my eyes open for a forge and blower but never found one I liked. All of it but the leg vice sold at auction. My ex has the vice now but I think I could get it if I asked.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Steve Blancard on Thursday, November 29, 2012 - 10:58 am:

Joseph - if you have not already done so, check out the Old Wood Working Machines (OWWM) web site.
http://www.owwm.org/index.php

Go there and search for Buffalo Forge, you'll find a ton of information. BTW, I just found out my Champion drill press was selected for their 2013 calendar.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Ricks - Surf City on Thursday, November 29, 2012 - 11:12 am:

"My ex has the vice now but I think I could get it if I asked."

I won't touch that one with a 3.06 meter pole...

Mike, I think what you meant was VISE. . . . Just giving you a hard time..

:-)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Steve Jelf, Parkerfield KS on Thursday, November 29, 2012 - 11:27 am:

You guys are way ahead of me. Mine needs a lot of cleaning up. The $2 price was right, though.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Terry Horlick in Penn Valley, CA on Thursday, November 29, 2012 - 12:23 pm:

I love those drills, I will have to watch for one for a wall hanger... don't need it for drilling! Hey it would look great mounted in our kitchen with an egg beater chucked up in it's maw!

RD, love that 3.06 M joke, I haven't heard that one before. I'm going to try and remember it for later use... only I like the figure 3.048 M!

TH


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Willie K Cordes on Thursday, November 29, 2012 - 12:31 pm:

Steve, I have a drill press similar to the one you have in the photo. It was used by my dad and his brothers when they run a cotton gin many years ago. I salvaged the drill press and a box of those special bits and have it mounted in my work shop along with an old bench mounted vice. I still occasionally use both items.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Steve Blancard on Thursday, November 29, 2012 - 12:51 pm:

Willie - they are fun to use and are surprisingly powerful. I used to use mine a lot, but last year I restored a 1951 Walker Turner drill press, its my every day, go to drill now.

WT900_2.jpg


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mike Garrison on Thursday, November 29, 2012 - 07:42 pm:

Hey Ralph, you don't know my ex do you? Good call, I have misspelled that word in the past and caught a bad time for it before. Sometimes us old guys just plain lose our ability to keep from making those little Freudian slips. It becomes easier all the time when life keeps kicking you in the shorts. But She really is a very nice person and the slip wasn't fair to her.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dane Hawley Near Melbourne Australia on Friday, November 30, 2012 - 04:18 am:



Obviously the Buffalo didn't migrate this far South. However I've got a 'Dawn' version. The Dawn brand started in Melbourne in 1917, but I don't know what year my drill was made.

It is one of the most useful tools in the workshop, and has helped me to make a huge range of DIY devices. With a good drill bit and the automatic feed, no piece of steel is safe.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Joseph Magedanz on Saturday, December 01, 2012 - 11:12 am:

One thing that is interesting about collecting this old stuff is to find information about it all.
You can find lots online, like this 1929 catalog that shows a 65-R very similar to the one I bought:

buffalo catalog


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Lance Sorenson, Minnesota on Saturday, December 01, 2012 - 04:00 pm:

When you needed to take the drill to the job, this Tempco drill was advertised circa 1918. It could be ordered for DC or Ac current. It weighted 11 lbs. and had a 3/8 chuck with a 3/8 capacity . The speed running idle was 900 rpm. Cost was $50. Another model offered had two motors and other features for HD work at $70.



A break-over feature permits drill to be loosened without the aid of a chuck. Everything is so overbuilt.



The single brass switch control starts, stops and reverses the motor. I am missing the wood handle and some sort of motor cover.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jeff Hood on Friday, December 14, 2012 - 12:26 am:

I picked mine up at a sale for $1.00. It was mounted to a post outdoors and when the post rotted off at the ground, the old guy drug it into his shop and stuffed it under his bench. It is still on the same post. After I cleaned it up and painted it, it sat in the garage for several years because I didn't know what to do with it! I found an old porcelain shade and turned it into a lamp. It's on the wall in the family room now near my old Gledhill-Brooks time clock and my wall phone.

There is no name on it, I don't know who made it. The crank handle can be moved to the rear shaft to change the speed, the feed is adjustable, and the flywheel shaft is very long so that more flywheels or a pulley could be added.


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