Ruckstell P211 Ball Bearing Installation

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Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By John Memmelaar Jr on Saturday, December 01, 2012 - 04:32 pm:

A while back I had my ruckstell popping out of high into a free wheeling state. I posted the question and got a ton of answers. I found that the P146 Sliding clutch gear and the P147 Notch plate were worn. So I pulled the rear and it is going back together. In reading the Repairing and Restoring the ruckstell axle book, I am installing the ball bearing and I believe that I have it correct. I wanted to double check before I put it in the car, then have to say some bad words if I had to take the rear out again.

Thanks

John







Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Richard Gould on Saturday, December 01, 2012 - 04:46 pm:

I don't know if you're joking or not, but just in case you're not, part of the thrust plate has broken off inside the ball bearing. You need a new thrust plate.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By John Memmelaar Jr on Saturday, December 01, 2012 - 05:27 pm:

Holy crud your right. This is my first venture into the ruckstell rear end. Good pick-up. The sad part was that it shifted fine and ran great. it would just pop out of high under torque load.

Chaffins order here I come.

Thanks for the heads up!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Stan Howe Helena, Montana on Saturday, December 01, 2012 - 05:33 pm:

Richard beat me to it!! I was just about to fire off a shot of warning over the bow!!! I've never seen that before but it ain't right.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Erich Bruckner, Vancouver, WA on Saturday, December 01, 2012 - 06:15 pm:

What the heck. I nearly had to check to see if it was April first. Never heard of a fracture like that.

John, it sure is a good thing you took it out of service for a look see before there was a very unfortunate accident. Now you will know for sure the diff is dependable and free of babbitt thrust washers.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By John Memmelaar Jr on Saturday, December 01, 2012 - 07:09 pm:

really bizarre, the whole thing. I think I am going to tear it all down and start from scratch now. I hope its not a sign of things to come with the rest of the car. Like the creeping crud.






Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Bob Cascisa - Poulsbo, Washington on Saturday, December 01, 2012 - 07:29 pm:

John,

You got a 350 Chevy in that thing??? <lol>

Be_Zero_Be


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By John Memmelaar Jr on Saturday, December 01, 2012 - 07:42 pm:

Gotta say it runs along pretty good :-)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Erich Bruckner, Vancouver, WA on Saturday, December 01, 2012 - 08:33 pm:

I see text reading "Hall Scott" so that unit may have had a lot of time on it. Seems a very prudent idea to start from scratch. Do you have the ruckstell axle book? Its indispensable.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Erich Bruckner, Vancouver, WA on Saturday, December 01, 2012 - 08:37 pm:

OOOOPs. I see you already have it. Please do a careful examination of each part as shown in the book. At this point it would be a shame to reuse a worn out part and have to revisit the inside of that diff in a short time.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By John Memmelaar Jr on Sunday, December 02, 2012 - 07:29 am:

Got it. I will be digging deeper today. If more questions arise Ill post.

Thanks


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Pat Kelly on Sunday, December 02, 2012 - 11:24 pm:

A week or so ago my Ruckstell in my TT came out of high to a free wheel condition going up a steep hill. I had shifted down on the flat but usually pull this hill in Ruckstell high and Ford low. I started to roll back but pulled hard on the stick and pulled it into low. I thought this couldn't happen? Anyhow I stopped and haven't had another problem. Ideas? Tanks,PK.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By John Memmelaar Jr on Tuesday, December 04, 2012 - 03:02 pm:

Ok this should be better. Ready to go in the rear tonight.



Pressed it on with a steel slug under it so that I would not crush the assembly like the book said


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Erich Bruckner, Vancouver, WA on Tuesday, December 04, 2012 - 04:58 pm:

John, that looks so much better.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By John Memmelaar Jr on Tuesday, December 04, 2012 - 08:53 pm:

OK, so not much work got done tonight, but my daughter and I had fun. My modern outer roller bearings has a bad seal, so tomorrow I will order one from a supply house.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Stan Howe Helena, Montana on Tuesday, December 04, 2012 - 09:41 pm:

Can I borrow her??? My little neighbor girl that hung around the shop and helped for years moved a couple miles away. I could use another helper, I'm working on a Ruckstell for the next couple days.


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