I have a 24 roadster and am attempting to install all of the wiring harnesses.
Does anybody have a couple of really good pictures of how the wiring harnesses look when they're installed?
I have the Ford Service Manual book but the pictures are lousy and I can't really make out the details.
I'm interested in seeing pictures of the firewall and the path the harness takes from the terminal block, then also how the wiring goes from the firewall and down the frame rails (?) and out to the timer. I'm also interested in seeing the path the harnesses take going into the car and then down to the rear tail light, etc.
Does anyone have pictures of their chassis (no body installed) with the new wiring complete.
Thanks in advance!!
Here are a couple of pictures that will show some of the area that you are concerned with. This is the original wiring loom on a very original N.Z. Centerdoor Sedan. I would assume that the U.S. cars would be the same. Credit to Adrian Whiteman for his great documentation on this car.
Tail lamp wiring in this older post
And a view of a '24 firewall
At the left end of the terminal block, why is there a wire clip not holding any wire?
I think that clip would hold the loom from commutator to terminal block away from spark plug wires and terminals.
Those pictures are perfect!!
Do you have pictures of the firewall to the lower right (driver's side) and lower left (passenger's side) to where/how the harness is attached?
Do you have pictures of the front frame rails (or wherever) that the harness comes across to the headlights and also over to the timer?
Steve , I think that the wiring loom may have slipped out from the clip at some stage. Regards, John
'24 dash view of wiring when lifting out engine for repairs
The pictures are great so far. Thank you!!
Does anybody have close up pictures of the front frame rails with the wiring harness routing and how it's attached/routed in the frame and up to the front of the car?
An interesting note: Check out the Ford tag on the loom. I've only seen one of these. This one is crimped on, whereas most of them were woven into the loom, with either a tin tag or a copper one. The tag mentioned that is crimped on is brass, and has a small Ford script on it. For Paul; if you check the Ford service book, it has some good pictures of how the wiring was routed up to the headlights.
Ford Service pics of headlamp wires going into the grommet in the hood shelf.
Service Bulletin 1921
Larry does anybody sell the Ford harness tag?
You can look at or download a picture of the wiring locations and color code information at the Texas "Ts" website. You can go to the vendors links on this website to get to it.
Its also a big help.
Interestingly, look at the pictures posted by Dan, William, and John. They all show the loom routed between the upper and lower coil box terminals. then look at the diagram posted by Dan. It shows the loom above the upper coil box terminals.
I looked at Bruce McCalley's "Model T Ford" and found four pictures with the loom above the upper coil box terminals (pages 271,272, 283, & 323) and two photos of it between the terminals (pages 348 & 364).
I THINK there must have been a change when the metal firewall was introduced. From the photos I've seen it looks like the metal firewalls have the loom between the terminals and the wood firewalls have it above.
Since I'm just guessing, does anyone have the actual information???
These pictures are from Bruce's Book. Was also covered in the Vintage Ford magazine. A nicely restored 1920 Wooden Firewall Touring. Regards, John
Coles used to make the tags. They weren't exactly like the originals, nor were they woven into the looms. Don't know any more than that. Note the photo above shows the generator wire going to the ampgage. I believe this is 19 and 20 only. The picture Dan posted is correct for a 24-5.
Cole's don't have the tags anymore. They got busted by FORD for trademark infrigement. They had no license to reproduce the tags. I was told that Ford confiscated the tooling and destroyed them. As far as I know they are not making harnesses anymore and their business is for sale. The big T-companies found other sources for making their products.