C1270 was originally sold by Trevan Motors in Lismore and was the town taxi. The car survived. It was sold many years ago to collector in Norway. This car could be a vital link filling in a big gap our research between C323, C861, & C1651.
Does anybody know anything about this original Canadian bodied Ford? I am looking for its body number under the front seat. Would any of our northern European readers know anything about this one?
OK I give up. Why would a European reader know anything about a Canadian bodied Model T?
Are you saying it is a Canadian town car / taxi? Do you have a picture of the body?
Royce, they would know because they purchased the car from here also as there was a lot of cars sent over seas from here before the government stopped the export of vehicles. Most went back to the US as people wanted RHD and we had better restored cars at that time but some went to England and Europe, The car would have most probably been a tourer than a town car anyway.
I sold one of my cars that was going back to the US before the owners wife slapped a divorce suit on him in California so he sent it on to London were it was resold to some Arab collector in the gulf so they can end up any were.
David, Engine C1202 I have as my spare motor and C1213 was owned by a Mr King in New Zealand and C1260 is or was in a car in Victoria so there is another one to chase.... Ray
From the New Zealand Register [MTFCNZ]. Early Canadian Engine numbers we have listed are C227 [Tourer], C320 [Van], C340 [Tourer], C1177 [Roadster], C1234 [[Tourer], C1239 [Van], C2302 [Van], C3016 [Tourer]. Plus 10 others under C7000. Then there is a big gap [no shipments at the time??] until we get to C11938.
C1213 is not known to us at this stage.
I wonder if this is of any help. Most T's that came to NZ after early 1913 were sourced from Canada due to favourable tariffs from British Commonwealth countries, Canada being one of those. We have about 1000 engine numbers recorded from our membership.
They did mention it was a 1913 tourer in the title and the serial number would be for that Canadian car. But it is easy to miss something that is mentioned in the title -- I know I have in the past.
If you could put a date range for "many years ago" that might provide some additional clues. I.e. back before WWII or 1950s or 1960s etc. If it was 1980 or later -- there might even be a computer database for imported cars/antiques that might help.
If it was a restored Model T or a very good original T, and sometime after 1950 it most likely has survived unless there was a catastrophic event such as a garage fire or major accident.
There is also a good chance that the next time the car changes hands the new owner will "google" the serial number and just might find this posting -- and provide an input and/or contact you.
Hopefully it will turn up and still have the same engine and body. Many folks in the 1950s swapped out parts as they were considered by so many as Gail Rodda's articles are titled "all the same...huh."
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OK, for our body number research we need original 1913 Canadian bodied Fords. By original, I mean a genuine survivor with the original engine number that matches the patent plate and a car that people can vouch for as original with a known history.
For example, C410 was found mechanicals only on a station here in SA, body scrapped years ago. The car was restored as a mother in law. No good for this line of research. Another 1913 tourer here was restored with side of the body 2" shorter than the other. No matter how the owner tries it is no good for this line of research.
C323 is now owned by the original owner's grandson. C1651 recently came out unmolested after 70 plus years storage. C4010 was known in Richmond Tasmania and was bought to keep the local Ford dealer off his back and promptly put into storage and later in a museum. These cars are true original, complete, unmolested, surviving Canadian 1913's needed for this research.
C1270 was sold by Trevan Motors and survived. Bob Trevan may have more knowledge here. In the mid to late 1980's it was snapped up by a collector in Norway; hence my thought that perhaps our forum readers in Northern Europe such as Sweden etc. may know of this car.
Rod, very interesting with your numbers, C320 is there yet C323 is my car and C324 came to Sydney as C324 is a surviving block but who the current owner is I do not know. Mr King is a D king and supplied numbers for the engine research so he was a member of a club that knew about the numbers, may be the MTFCA at that time or he could have been in the Veteran car club. Do any of these cars that you listed still have the build plates on them by any chance.. Hope this helps you trace him down.. Ray
I have a friend in Melbourne who's into veteran/vintage Fiats with good contacts in Norway.
There are people on this forum from Sweden and Denmark who also may be able to help.
The prewarcar.com website has a section for people looking for such information.
I'm sorry, I have no contacts in Norway but we do have an occasional norwegian forum participant, Lorentz K. Lorentzen. http://www.mtfca.com/cgi-bin/discus/board-profile.cgi?action=view_profile&profil e=lorentz-users
The Norwegian veteran car club has a Model T section - someone there might recognise that particular car?