1909 two lever Ford-Photo

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Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Herb Iffrig on Wednesday, December 12, 2012 - 07:41 pm:



Have fun.

Herb


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Willie Rathbone on Wednesday, December 12, 2012 - 08:18 pm:

I would be a lot happier looking than these folks if I were sitting in an 09 !


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Rob Heyen - Nebraska on Wednesday, December 12, 2012 - 08:24 pm:

Looks like he's smoking a stogie. There goes the resale value.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Kim Dobbins on Wednesday, December 12, 2012 - 08:29 pm:

Thanks Herb, that's a great picture! Running board covering looks about the same color as the tires. All these early 09 Fords seem to have the big 3 tier E&J side lights, the control levers are definitely brass plated.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Herb Iffrig on Wednesday, December 12, 2012 - 10:24 pm:

Brisco radiator?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mike Walker, NW AR on Wednesday, December 12, 2012 - 11:05 pm:

Willie -- Having your picture taken back then was serious business! :-) Way before we were told to "Say cheese" or"Say Model T", they were told not to move at all for several seconds. It's a wonderful picture of what was at the time a remarkable new invention, and what is now a very rare automobile. As Kim alluded, the rubber parts are not white, but an off-white color of some sort. Compare the rubber parts with the shirts and dress of the folks in the picture, and it's obvious that they were not white. Maybe they were gray, or tan, or red, which all were colors of rubber at the time, depending upon what was used to produce the rubber.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Keith Townsend ; ^ ) Gresham, Orygun on Thursday, December 13, 2012 - 01:56 am:

Here's another:


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Don Watson -Florence,Colorado on Thursday, December 13, 2012 - 02:22 am:

Can someone get rid of the writing Please
otherwise a great photo
-Don


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dennis Henrichs on Thursday, December 13, 2012 - 02:30 am:

In the photo, mom in the back seat looks happy. Dad looks chewing on his cigar looks stern because he wanted the new model with 3 pedals.
:-)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Roger Karlsson, southern Sweden on Thursday, December 13, 2012 - 04:08 am:

Great photo :-) Next month dad bought the factory kit to get three pedals, I guess, but I wonder why the boy wasn't pleased? Maybe he wanted a Buick instead :S


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Larry Bohlen, Severn MD on Thursday, December 13, 2012 - 10:27 am:

Nobody mentioned crank handle standing up.
Real early 1909.

Larry


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Roger Karlsson, southern Sweden on Thursday, December 13, 2012 - 10:35 am:

Didn't the crank handle location feature coexist with the water pump engines so it was used on the first 2500 cars, while the two lever / two pedal system was dropped around #800?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Kevin Crouch on Thursday, December 13, 2012 - 11:44 am:

What makes you think the tires were'nt white?? Surely you don't think they stayed white after they were driven on dirt roads and mud do you??? If you have a white T-shirt and you jump off in a mud hole, does that mean it was never white??


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Darel J. Leipold on Thursday, December 13, 2012 - 11:50 am:

A quick retouch.

1909


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Herb Iffrig on Thursday, December 13, 2012 - 02:50 pm:

Kevin I think what they were getting at is that it is known that the tires were off white to begin with. Comparing the known color of the tires to the color seen on the running board is an indicator of what the color of the running board was like.
I have seen a NRS car with white rubber covered running boards , but that was, I'm pretty sure a restoration.

Herb


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Wayne Sheldon, Grass Valley, CA on Thursday, December 13, 2012 - 11:59 pm:

Steve Jelf knows much more about photography than I ever will. Many cameras of that time were set up, the photographer then stood to the side and squeezed a bulb to click the camera. This was done, in part so that the camera would not be jiggled as the slow acting film did its job. I think the boy is looking at the photographer instead of the camera.
Nice T!
Drive carefully, and enjoy the holidays! W2


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Danial - Veneta OR US Earth Solar System on Friday, December 14, 2012 - 12:11 am:

I thought that was dust on the running boards giving them that shade.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Scott Kramer on Friday, December 14, 2012 - 12:23 am:

Herb,
Briscoe made radiators, gas tanks etc. in Detroit for many types of autompbiles.They started to make the Briscoe car in Jackson,Michigan 1915-1921 which became the Earl car.The Briscoe was also made in Brockville,Ontario,Canada from 1916-21.
I own a 1917 Briscoe model B424 touring car with the "half million dollar motor".
Scott


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Herb Iffrig on Friday, December 14, 2012 - 02:13 am:

Thanks Scott. I thought of it being a Briscoe as I remember hearing that they were used on the early T's. Look at this one. It appears that it is one piece on the sides. Other brass T radiators have a seam between the tank and the vertical side.

Herb


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Terry Horlick in Penn Valley, CA on Sunday, December 16, 2012 - 11:11 am:

Wayne,
come over sometime and I will get out my 8 X 10 view camera for you to play with. The main reason for the squeeze bulb shutter trip is that after using the ground glass back for framing the photo you slide in the film there... so there is absolutely nothing to look through on the camera... no viewfinder, nuthin'. You stand there with your little bulb in hand and watch your subject until you are ready to do the exposure.

You are right, with the squeeze bulb a pneumatic piston trips the shutter and you are not touching the camera and shaking it. This and tripods are the biggest reason vintage photos are very sharp... another is that you must focus the image on every shot, later point and shoot box cameras depended on the depth of field and faster film to eliminate the need to focus.

TH


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Royce in Dallas TX on Sunday, December 16, 2012 - 11:18 am:

The early 1909 running boards are in fact boards covered with grey linoleum.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Kim Dobbins on Sunday, December 16, 2012 - 02:06 pm:

Royce, I am leaning toward the off white/gray ribbed rubber mat used on the 1908 model S roadster as running board covering for the early 1909's.


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