Wanted: Colonial Canadian 1915 'C' Engine Numbers - tracking shipments by country & state?

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Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By David Chantrell - Adelaide, Australia on Friday, December 14, 2012 - 02:33 am:

Here is the 1915 page.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Ray Green on Friday, December 14, 2012 - 04:10 am:

NZ


Australia
NSW
C31138, C37746, C42854, C42863 Aus Body, C43164, C46730, C51478, C53026 Aus Body, C55125, C55164, C6O610, C60760.

Vic


QLD
C41165,

SA


WA


TAS


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Ray Green on Friday, December 14, 2012 - 04:35 am:

I was once told that there were more 1915's here than what was sent, any way here are more numbers... Ray
NZ
C40903, C45003,

Australia
NSW
C28717, C31138, C31654, C32887, C33699,C34583, C35234, C37746, C38018, C38609, C42854, C42863 Aus Body, C43164, C45776, C46730, C51478, C53026 Aus Body, C55125, C55164, C6O610, C60760.

Vic


QLD
C31194, C41165, C44516, C45106

SA


WA
C34491,

TAS


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By David Chantrell - Adelaide, Australia on Friday, December 14, 2012 - 04:47 am:

NZ


Australia
NSW
C31138, C37746, C42854, C42863 Aus Body, C42940, C43164, C46730, C51478, C53026 Aus Body, C55125, C55164, C6O610, C60760.

Vic
C44468

QLD
C41165,

SA
C56882, C65871, C65896,


WA


TAS


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Kerry van Ekeren (Australia) on Friday, December 14, 2012 - 04:51 am:

Ray, are you going fiscal year model or calendar years? some of those larger NSW numbers trip past some of my around march 1916 casting dates and there engine numbers.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By David Chantrell - Adelaide, Australia on Friday, December 14, 2012 - 04:52 am:

NZ


Australia
NSW
C31138, C37746, C42854, C42863 Aus Body, C42940, C43164, C46730, C51478, C53026 Aus Body, C55125, C55164, C6O610, C60760.

Vic
C44468

QLD
C41165,C44577

SA
C56882, C65871, C65896,


WA


TAS


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By David Chantrell - Adelaide, Australia on Friday, December 14, 2012 - 05:07 am:

The calendar year for 1915 according to my books runs from approximately C25000 - C51000 & 1916 from C51000-C91000.
NZ


Australia
NSW
C31138, C37746, C42854, C42863 Aus Body, C42940, C43164, C46730, C51478, C53026 Aus Body, C55125, C55164, C6O610, C60760.

Vic
C44468

QLD
C41165,C44577

SA
C31413, C32937, C56882, C65871, C65896,


WA


TAS


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Ray Green on Friday, December 14, 2012 - 08:13 am:

Kerry, I am tiring to keep in the fiscal year as the cut off date is the end of August but we are finding early blocks with later numbers so I can not cut them out so I settled on Oct?Nov.
its the best I can come up with...
David each book I look at gives a different cut off date so I am working on the world standard Veteran car club year. Ray


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By David Chantrell - Adelaide, Australia on Saturday, December 15, 2012 - 01:15 am:

Dear Ray, yeah, I know about the fiscal date cut off thing. It has been a pain for years.

Years ago I used the publicised dates such as 1st June etc., then broke it down into months, production days etc. and then calculated an Excel spreadsheet for the data. The table is able to give both a start and end of month production figure.

I appreciate I have made a number of assumptions, I had too, but my model does work for our calendar year 1/1/xx to 31/12/xx format instead of the ridiculous, unworkable US fiscal year rubbish.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Gavin Harris (Napier, NZ) on Saturday, December 15, 2012 - 01:37 am:

I have C44982, casting date 9 18 15


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Rod McKenzie on Tuesday, December 18, 2012 - 03:30 am:

More numbers from the MTFCNZ register.
C25109 Roadster. C25706 Tourer. C26039 Roadster. C26608 Roadster. C32386 Unknown. C32734 Unknown. C34446 Unknown. C36825 Roadster. C36837 Engine. C36865 Tourer. C37002 Engine. C37734 Tourer. C39656 Roadster. C39657 Tourer. C39659 Tourer. C39782 Raceabout. C39956 Tourer. C41974 Tourer. C42012 Roadster. C42077 Engine. C42146 Roadster. C42152 Engine [8.5.15]. C42522 Roadster. C44315 Roadster. C44320 Engine [9.8.15]. C44942 Raceabout. C44982 Engine [9.18.15]. C45003 Tourer. C45648 Tourer. C45675 Engine. C45726 Town car. C53066 Tourer. C53313 Tourer [Believed exported to Germany c.1998]. C53511 Tourer. C54120 Tourer. C54344 Speedster.
For the purposes of our register I have called C55000 as the cut off date, but again, I stand to be corrected.
Due to the First World War, only a few cars were imported into New Zealand in 1916, 1917 and 1918. Imports began again in earnest in 1919 and 1920, but a recession in 1921 meant virtually no imports at all for a time and there is a huge gap in the numbers between C280000 and C320000 where we have just the one example. On vintage car rallys I have attended there has always been a dearth of 1921 vehicles because of this, not just Fords, but right across the spectrum of motoring.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Kerry van Ekeren (Australia) on Tuesday, December 18, 2012 - 06:35 am:

Rod, I would be interested in what numbers you do have for those war years of 1916-17-18, post or PM if you like. Thanks.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Ray Green on Tuesday, December 18, 2012 - 07:50 am:

Hi Kerry, why not put them up here so other may get off their hands and add some more and we will end up with a full record of whats left, I have 25 plus 1916 and 20 1917 numbers on my lists so start the thread.
Hey there David, here is a question that needs a answer, out side of Dane why have the Victorians not even tired to help with their numbers, why not give them a phone call... Ray


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Rod McKenzie on Tuesday, December 18, 2012 - 03:41 pm:

Hi Kerry, if we really want to get the history recorded for Canadian produced engines/cars, then perhaps a thread for each year could be produced for all the "C" engines produced right through to C750000 where they cut out. That would be a huge job for all contributors, but it would surely get the history into perspective.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By David Chantrell - Adelaide, Australia on Tuesday, December 18, 2012 - 04:58 pm:

Wow, I don;t look for as couple of days and it goes wild! Anybody can raise a thread, give me a couple of days and I will set up a few more. I have received no negative comments on my annual cutoff dates and will do the same for each year. Off to work now...back shortly.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jerry Giesbrecht on Tuesday, December 18, 2012 - 05:19 pm:

I have a 1915 Touring ser# C69637 with engine casting # 03/29/16


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Victor Bloxsome on Thursday, December 20, 2012 - 04:08 am:

My restoration projects:
1915 Tarrant roadster , Mott wire wheels, silver paint, nickel every bright part ,my great-aunt's "Rolls-Ford" twenty-first birthday gift from her father ;(her notation on the reverse of 6x4 photos.) Being replicated - slowly.

1927 Pickup , US steel stakeside bed .Complete awaiting restoration -

1919 Peel bodied roadster (Brisbane) with Canadian 2 globe headlamps - framed up and ready to skin . See Engine #

ENGINE BLOCKS;

C45071 10- 4-15
C24857 10-31-14
C704426 10-11- D
C220026 9-11-19
C721057 1-11- E
C616087 1-11- D
C598621 1- 6- C

The eleventh day was popular , the cold Canadian months good for casting ?

Victor in Brisbane .


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By David Chantrell - Adelaide, Australia on Monday, December 24, 2012 - 12:46 am:

The calendar year for 1915 according to my books runs from approximately C25000 - C51000 & 1916 from C51000-C91000.
NZ
C25109 Roadster. C25706 Tourer. C26039 Roadster. C26608 Roadster. C32386 Unknown. C32734 Unknown. C34446 Unknown. C36825 Roadster. C36837 Engine. C36865 Tourer. C37002 Engine. C37734 Tourer. C39656 Roadster. C39657 Tourer. C39659 Tourer. C39782 Raceabout. C39956 Tourer. C41974 Tourer. C42012 Roadster. C42077 Engine. C42146 Roadster. C42152 Engine [8.5.15]. C42522 Roadster. C44315 Roadster. C44320 Engine [9.8.15]. C44942 Raceabout. C44982 Engine [9.18.15]. C45003 Tourer. C45648 Tourer. C45675 Engine. C45726 Town car. C53066 Tourer. C53313 Tourer [Believed exported to Germany c.1998]. C53511 Tourer. C54120 Tourer. C54344 Speedster.
For the purposes of our register I have called C55000 as the cut off date, but again, I stand to be corrected

Australia
NSW
C31138, C37746, C42854, C42863 Aus Body, C42940, C43164, C46730, C51478, C53026 Aus Body, C55125, C55164, C6O610, C60760.

Vic
C44468

QLD
C41165,C44577, C45071.

SA
C31413, C32937, C56882, C65871, C65896,


WA

PS - I will remove the 1916 numbers when I separate the page out for 1916.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Ray Green on Monday, December 24, 2012 - 08:23 am:

David, my calender book based on a calendar year tells me that 1915 was C26397 to C46560 with a overlap of 4000 units which could have been spare blocks and used for non vehicle jobs, 1916 was C51749 to C98647 which some one here will show me that I was wrong and but I did not print this book and it has been in use for as many years as I can remember... Ray


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By David Chantrell - Adelaide, Australia on Monday, December 24, 2012 - 09:10 am:

Dear Ray, please PM me...Dave C.


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