Friction plates?

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Model T Ford Forum: Forum 2012: Friction plates?
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By ken bechtel on Wednesday, December 19, 2012 - 10:08 pm:

Hi all! I am considering the turbo 400 friction plates for my T.any suggestions ? thanks. Ken


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Matthew David Maiers on Wednesday, December 19, 2012 - 10:26 pm:

The beef i have with using those is as they wear they would leave behind abrasive powder that gets circulated in with the engine.

Are you having problems with the original clutch?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Stephen D Heatherly on Wednesday, December 19, 2012 - 10:29 pm:

Ken, some are going to disagree but, the tubro 400 has no advantage over a correctly adjusted Ford clutch. Make sure the discs are flat before using. Also check them for cracks and excessive pitting.

Stephen


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By ken bechtel on Wednesday, December 19, 2012 - 10:49 pm:

Thanks for your help guys. I am still working on my T and have not driven it yet.just finished the engine rebuild,new supports and shafts in the hogs head and getting close to the transmission. this is my first T so i am just fishing for all the info i can get. sounds like the ford clutch is the way to go. found no cracks in the drums and they are smooth. thanks. Ken


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Wayne Sheldon, Grass Valley, CA on Wednesday, December 19, 2012 - 11:46 pm:

Properly adjusted, the original T clutch is the best! That is my opinion, and I am sticking to it.
But this is not a democracy. It is your car and you may do as you wish.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Ricks - Surf City on Thursday, December 20, 2012 - 12:54 am:

I've been running the same set of Turbo 400 discs for a dozen years and 50-100K miles. I like them for a freer neutral than old originals. There was a Tinkerin' Tips years ago that said the original outer discs were dished, and could be re-dished with a hammer.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Royce in Dallas TX on Thursday, December 20, 2012 - 07:08 am:

Absolute baloney as far as a better neutral with any brand of aftermarket clutch. The original Ford clutch offers better performance and a perfect neutral that cannot be improved upon. Newbies to the T hobby often fall for hype like this Ken.

Stick with the original Ford design, it is much more reliable.

Here are some related threads about failed Watts / Turbo / Jacked up clutches:


http://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/118802/167522.html?1288125409

http://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/118802/166065.html?1288150804

http://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/118802/167454.html

http://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/118802/167522.html



http://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/118802/167406.html?1288139695

http://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/118802/144652.html

http://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/118802/129390.html

http://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/118802/155069.html


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By ken bechtel on Thursday, December 20, 2012 - 06:53 pm:

My mind is made up,i`ll stick with the ford clutch.I guess i`m like a lot of other guys on trying to improve the model t. that clutch lasted this long and it will probably out last me. thanks. Ken


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By joe bell on Thursday, December 20, 2012 - 07:33 pm:

I just replaced a set of the turbo clutch pack back to the original Iron, the fingers had been adjusted the wrong way and it burned them up, you would never burn up a steel set!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Robert Scott Owens on Thursday, December 20, 2012 - 08:42 pm:

No Joe you would just turn them blue and warp the Hell out of them and then you would go back to jacking up the rear wheel to start up. Some folks can kill a cannon ball. So do you blame the cannon ball? When you wear out a tire and it goes flat who are you going to blame that on? Ford changed lots of thing as time went on and for the better. Some people should sell there tools and get golf clubs. Scott


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Wayne Sheldon, Grass Valley, CA on Friday, December 21, 2012 - 12:32 am:

Some people should be banned by law for life from ever touching a tool.
Very sad, but a girl I went to school with? Her dad was killed changing a light bulb in their home. At the ripe old age of ten, I had met him several times and was not surprised by his death.
Drive carefully, and do enjoy the holidays! W2


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By David Dare - Just a little South West . on Saturday, December 22, 2012 - 04:00 pm:

Ken l used to swear by them, dont bother with them now, use the original discs, unless you can not acheive a satisfactory neutral/mid point, you could always use some of both.
They do wear, depending on the quality you buy !!!!

David.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By ken bechtel on Saturday, December 22, 2012 - 04:14 pm:

Thanks for all input pertaining to the original question guys! I cleaned up the original disc today and they look fine.I put a wire around the stack so i could keep them in the original order. Ken


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Chester Lowery - Hendersonville TN on Saturday, December 22, 2012 - 04:29 pm:

Ken,
I just help Mr.Cook reassemble mine Thursday and we had this same discussion. After listening to the pros and cons of both, and he showed me both discs, we went with the original. He reshaped the round ones with a hammer to about .003 bow and installed them. I sand blasted everything to a near white blast before assembling. I have pictures of the assembly if you want me to send them to you....Chet


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By ken bechtel on Saturday, December 22, 2012 - 05:53 pm:

Hi Chester! I thought about doing a glass bead blast but wasn't sure about that. mine have a slight curvature to them but not sure if they are OK ? i`ll lay them on a piece of glass and see what they look like. yes! pictures would be OK. Ken


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Chester Lowery - Hendersonville TN on Saturday, December 22, 2012 - 06:08 pm:

Ken,
click on my name and you will see my email address. Email me and I will send you some pictures. It's hard to post but three or four at a time on the forum. Chet


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Royce in Dallas TX on Sunday, December 23, 2012 - 09:00 am:

The disks should be perfectly flat. If they have been beat up with a hammer and bowed they are going to drag when disengaged and not engage fully.


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