I have an early 1912 Touring Body and I need to make seat springs for both the front and back seat. Does anyone have photos or blueprints of the original seat cushions that show the wood substructure layout and spring pattern. Any help would be greatly appreciated!
Call Snyders as they have many patterns they have made over the years.
I got a new seat spring for my '20 Coupe from Snyders.
Absolutely top quality and maybe even better than the original......
Top quality except for the paint. They must use the cheapest dip paint available. It flakes off if you look at it. Other than that, the springs are great.
Is your early '12 a step-side body or slab-side body?
It is a step side body. The springs that Snyders makes are not correct for an original 1912. I have used Snyders springs for my 1926 and they worked well. The early springs are a totally different animal.
Please forgive me for laughing but I can't help it. John asked for photos and blueprints that show the spring pattern and wood substructure layout.
What he got was the name of a place that sells seat springs. And though I know it was you guys being very helpful as you always are I smiled at the fact that he asked for one thing and got something totally different.
And please don't be angry with me for saying anything about it. It's the nature of people on this forum to be extremely helpful and are always going out of their way to provide for the rest of us. You guys are the best.
Just those who have done a '12 or are would have that info. The blueprints come from Benson Ford Research Library, best place for real info.
1912 Part and Price list:
Part No 3766 Front Cushion, Factory # 1626B is listed as 6" x 17 1/2" x 39" But also says to (state size) as there must have been others.
Part No 3767 Rear Cushion, Factory # 1627B also says to (state size).
The Factory # prints should contain the data you need.
Here is the work of a Forum poster on his '12 Torpedo front seat, Part No 3716.
And, Synders is the place for seat springs. Have has several made in custom size, supply them with a layout, spring dia, height, and template, and they will make a superior product.
My old beat to death backrest spring.
New replacement from Synders
Fit like a charm
Thank you for the info and photos! That photo of the bottom of the seat is just what I needed. Also, thank you Jack, Craig,Ken and Keith. I appreciate you input!
Well Mike......when you can BUY them already made, and WELL made at that, it doesn't make sense to attempt making them yourself.
But Craig, that wasn't his question. But as I said everyone on this forum almost trip over each other to help a person. And I think that's commendable. I very seriously wasn't trying to say anything bad or piss anyone off. But...
The picture Dan posted was of the bottom of a Torpedo seat. The 1912 Touring seat should not have any wood on the bottom, nor should it be tulip shaped.
When did they stop using horsehair padding?
Was that just in the backrest?
No, Bud Scudder of California, Kentucky, god rest his sole, had an original '17 Touring and still had the horsehair on the seat cushion. I know, because my ass itched all day after riding in the car. Even though, he had a blanket covering the tears in the leatherette. LOL
The late '11 and early '12 do not have wood framed seat cushion springs like the earlier 1911 cars did. They are more like the later springs, but without the crimp edge for the upholstery.
Dan has the front dimensions about right 17-1/2 x 39" My reproductions are about 4" thick, not 6". The slab-side 1912 spring is only about 36" wide.
The underside of the cushion spring for late '11 and early '12 has a cardboard backing and it is covered with Ford's artificial leather. The seat cushions of this era also have the same artificial leather on the sides and back, while the front and top are covered with leather (and of course stuffed with horsehair.)
There is no backrest spring in this era.
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