In the Pierce vs. 1907 Ford thread, a post mentioned that Pierces were on more tours, and worth more today than Ford sixes (Model K). Of course that made me curious, so........
Monday, December 24, 2012 - 05:39 pm:
"There are a lot more early Pierce Arrows being toured long distances today than there are Ford Model Ks. I'm not talking about day trips but Trans Continental Tours that are a couple of thousand miles, 500 mile Gas and Brass Tours, etc. I never see any Model K Fords on these long distance tours. I think the Pierce Arrow survival rate is higher (which certainly reflects on its build quality) and they certainly demand much more money today than a Model K does.
Having carefully examined both, the Pierce Arrow is definitely a better engineered, designed and built car than the Ford K."
In response, I'm not sure many 1906-1908 Pierces tour today,
(hope so, they'd be a great tour car).
I do know of four Model Ks that are driven routinely, ours, one on the east coast, and two in Australia. There may be more. I know of three others that are in running condition (23-25 Model Ks known to exist today).
I checked RM results (easiest way to find sales examples I know of).
The last two Model Ks to sell brought $214K and 192K. I was unable to find any 1906/1908 Pierces, but did find two 1909 Pierces selling for 192K and $350K.
All four cars are wonderful examples that we all would be proud to own and drive.
A fair number of early (1905 - 1910) Pierce products do show up at HCCA tours. Probably because they have a marque strong club, the Pierce Arrow Society, and they are utterly reliable. Once you get past the purchase price of a Pierce you havve a car that will last virtually forever if maintained properly.
I have yet to see even a single example of a Ford K on tour anywhere. Rob I think you are blazing a new trail every time you take your K anywhere. There are very few Model K Fords around. Even off brand cars like Chalmers and Stoddard Dayton are seen more frequently.
One thing about it, neither of us are afraid to take on a challenge (of course unless it involves a waterpump or distributor)
Did you find anything under the tree?
I used to have a 1925 Pierce Arrow, I know, a totally different thing. However I know quite a few people that have Pierce Arrows and a couple different people that have collections of Pierce Arrows. One fellow I know, has what must be one of the finest collections of Pierce Arrows in the world. He is always buying and selling them, trying to upgrade the "permanent" collection. He usually has about twenty five or more. One I have seen is an almost totally original funny looking little buggy with a single cylinder motor mounted on the rear axle. I believe it is one of the three earliest Pierce automobiles still in the world. He has several pre-1910 Pierces including a beautiful 1906/07 Great Arrow which he does drive on tours.
Like most marques before 1911, Pierce becomes much more scarce the earlier you go. They also become much more work to drive an maintain. Comparing a Pierce Great Arrow to a 1913 Pierce Arrow is like comparing a 1909 Ford T to a 1913 T. Stoddard Daytons, I know a couple owners. Chalmers, I know a few. They are all post 1910 cars. You will of course see them on tours much more than anything from 1906/07.
I have been on Nickel Age and Horseless carriage tours where half the cars attending were Pierce Arrows. MOST of them later than 1911.
Drive carefully, and Merry Christmas! W2