Bolts?

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Model T Ford Forum: Forum 2012: Bolts?
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By ken bechtel on Wednesday, December 26, 2012 - 08:32 pm:

Hi all! I have 5 bolts that measure 5/16" dia.x 1 and 11/32" long from the shoulder to the end. I think these bolts belong to the engine but not sure? any help .the engine was disassembled when i got the car. most all bolt and nuts are easy to identify except these. thanks Kenbolts


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jack Daron - Brownsburg IN on Wednesday, December 26, 2012 - 08:38 pm:

Differential? If so you are missing two and the nuts.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By ken bechtel on Wednesday, December 26, 2012 - 09:04 pm:

Thanks Jack for your input!I rebuilt the rear end about three months ago and bought all new bolts and nuts for it and i don`t recall any bolt of this size.also these bolts don`t have any holes for safety wire. Ken


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Andy Loso St Joseph, MN on Wednesday, December 26, 2012 - 09:07 pm:

I am wondering if they the blind bolts that go into the hogshead near the starter, or the front timing cover bolts that require no nuts?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By ken bechtel on Wednesday, December 26, 2012 - 09:14 pm:

The hogshead is not installed yet! I`ll check that out. Thanks. Ken


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jack Daron - Brownsburg IN on Wednesday, December 26, 2012 - 10:08 pm:

Andy,all those bolts are 3/8 NF thread.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jim Derocher on Wednesday, December 26, 2012 - 10:15 pm:

Maybe they are for the oil pan to the block, the later ones that used a lock washer and nut with no cotter pin? I have some just like it and they are about the same size as the ones with the cotter pin hole I think. Jim Derocher, AuGres, Michigan


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dan Treace, North FL on Wednesday, December 26, 2012 - 10:17 pm:

Agree with Jack, that size is correct for the rear pumpkin (axle case) bolts, Part # 2503E.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jack Daron - Brownsburg IN on Wednesday, December 26, 2012 - 10:27 pm:

If they are 5/16,that is the only place I can think of .


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mike Garrison_Rice Minnesota on Wednesday, December 26, 2012 - 10:28 pm:

My first thought was timing cover bolts.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Doug Money - Braidwood, IL on Wednesday, December 26, 2012 - 11:14 pm:

Hope this helps.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Richard Wolf on Thursday, December 27, 2012 - 07:44 am:

Doug;
Where did you find that diagram? Sure would like to have a print of it in my shop.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Allan Richard Bennett on Thursday, December 27, 2012 - 07:52 am:

Other than the 7 bolts and plain nuts around the diff centre, the only other place I can recall 5/16" bolts being used is the four which hold the handbrake cross shaft to the chassis, and these are drilled for split pins and have castle nuts.

Hope this helps.

Allan from down under.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By John Cassara Long Island, NY on Thursday, December 27, 2012 - 07:55 am:

Doug that's a great diagram. Can you email it to me in full resolution. I would like to get it printed at a local printer and frame it. Garage art! John

jcassara@optonline.net


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By john kuehn on Thursday, December 27, 2012 - 09:38 am:

Thats a great bolt diagram.
I wonder why a neat restoration tool like that isnt avaliable from the suppliers?
It would make real sense to have one for the restorer!
I have to ask the question, is it a Ford product?
I thought I had seen most of the ones by Ford over the years.
Whoever its from its a very useful diagram.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By michael grady on Thursday, December 27, 2012 - 09:42 am:

wow..great diagram. What do the number next tot he bolt/nut size mean? For example: Take the upper left most as an example - the rear spring hanger nut. What is to the left of the 11/16th in that illustration. The first looks like an open ended wrench.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By john kuehn on Thursday, December 27, 2012 - 09:46 am:

When looking closely at the diagram I just noticed that the number of wrench to use is next to the size bolt.
That must be a shop print to use at a Ford dealership. Maybe?
Question: are the wrench numbers the same used by Ford for their tools?
Maybe some of you tool guys can answer this one.
Interesting!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By ex trooper on Thursday, December 27, 2012 - 10:12 am:

Try a standard nut on them. They look like the later open style pinion bearing bolts on the end of the driveshaft. If the standard nut doesnt fit, chances are they are a Ford thread which should narrow it down. troop


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By ken bechtel on Thursday, December 27, 2012 - 06:49 pm:

Thanks for all the help and suggestions guys! These bolts were in a unmarked bag when i bought the car.since i am fairly new to the model t, i do a lot of homework. they will probably find there place somewhere. thanks again all, Ken


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By ken bechtel on Saturday, December 29, 2012 - 04:14 pm:

Mystery solved! I compare these bolts to my diff. housing bolts and they are the same. guess the other owner had some extras.now i do! Ken


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Doug Money - Braidwood, IL on Monday, December 31, 2012 - 03:38 pm:

John, I am on vacation, but when I get back to the office, I will try and send it to you then. Happy New Year from Daytona Beach!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Doug Money - Braidwood, IL on Monday, December 31, 2012 - 09:04 pm:

I had so many requests, I retrieved the file and sent it. Hope you got it.


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