Would this head work on a T engine?

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Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Chester Leighton on Thursday, December 27, 2012 - 06:31 pm:

Saw this ford tractor head on T bay and got to wondering if it would work on a T engine and would it increase compression?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Old-Ford-9N-8N-2N-Farm-Tractor-Engine-Head-Hit-Miss-Stea m-Magneto-Oiler-NICE-/110993534999?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19d7baf017


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Erich Bruckner, Vancouver, WA on Thursday, December 27, 2012 - 06:35 pm:

The water passages are incompatible for one thing.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By john kuehn on Thursday, December 27, 2012 - 06:53 pm:

Those heads for 9N Ford tractors and repoed by the dozen or more.
They have been around for years and fairly common. Nothing really special other than coming off a common old Ford tractor.
If they would work on a T block this would have been done years ago.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Hap Tucker on Thursday, December 27, 2012 - 08:29 pm:

Chester,

Actually that is a question many of us have had as we first looked at the older Ford tractors and/or became interested in Model T Fords. There is some similarity -- both flat heads, both four cylinder, etc. In addition to the water passages not lining up, the tractor head that is shown appears to have 18 studs (for the head nuts to fit on), the Model A Ford (1928-1931) has 14 head studs, and the Model T has 15 head bolts. So the head bolts would not line up and probably the bores etc. would be off some also.

Note, a head from a different vehicle can be fitted to the T -- but it takes some additional work. One conversion that is available is for the 4 cylinder Chevy & Olds heads around 1928 (and a few other years -- but I don't know those of the top of my head). For photos and story see:

http://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/29/25434.html

And there web site is at: http://www.jernthunderbolt.com/Model%20T%20Parts%20.html

And if someone remembers has a link or remembers the name of the machine shop operator that modified the small block V-8 Chevy head to fit a Model A Ford -- please let me know. It was a neat story of a shop student from long ago doing it for his shop project. And it worked. He is now working on four-bangers, but I don't remember the name. And yes it is not economically practical -- but it was a great shop project!

I like your nice looking 1926-27 pickup on your profile page.

Respectfully submitted,

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Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Matthew David Maiers on Thursday, December 27, 2012 - 08:54 pm:

I beieve thats teh guy at specialty cams?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By John P. Steele, Montana on Thursday, December 27, 2012 - 11:41 pm:

Bill Stipe, I think it was a head off a 327.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Hap Tucker on Friday, December 28, 2012 - 09:05 am:

Matthew and John,

Thank you both so much for pointing me in the correct direction. Yes, that was Bill Stipe, Jr. who currently produces the Stipe cams for Ts. I saved the stories so hopefully I can find them again in the future. For a fun read of how Bill Stipe caught the old car bug (1930 Ford Tudor) see: http://specialtymotorcams.com/pages/aboutus.html and for details on how much it took to modify the 327 Chevy head to fit on the Model A Ford block see: http://specialtymotorcams.com/pages/ovhconversions.html I liked his comment at the end of the story, "Hope you enjoyed reading this as much as I did making it. Bill Stipe, Jr."

Again thank you for helping me locate that story.

Respectfully submitted,

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