I think it's a model A.

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Model T Ford Forum: Forum 2012: I think it's a model A.
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Enos Wiseman on Saturday, December 29, 2012 - 08:36 pm:

A friend sent me this picture. Does anyone know what it is?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mike Walker, NW AR on Saturday, December 29, 2012 - 08:42 pm:

1930 Model A.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Enos Wiseman on Saturday, December 29, 2012 - 08:44 pm:

Thanks;
I'll pass that on.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Ed Baudoux on Saturday, December 29, 2012 - 09:06 pm:

31?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mike Walker, NW AR on Saturday, December 29, 2012 - 09:14 pm:

Ed -- I think you're right. I figured that whether I said '30 or '31, it would be the other. :-)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Norman T. Kling on Saturday, December 29, 2012 - 09:19 pm:

Late 31 A but a different horn and bumper and the headlights have been converted to sealed beam


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Richard Wolf on Saturday, December 29, 2012 - 09:48 pm:

I'd like to have that license plate.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Hap Tucker on Saturday, December 29, 2012 - 09:49 pm:

Mike,

Actually I believe Ed is using the 1931 radiator shell to date the vehicle, as the 1930 radiator shell does not have the painted insert at the top. But if you look at the bottom of the radiator shell it looks like it has been patched so it will fit the radiator.

Note the windshield appears to be a "made to fit" one -- with a much wider frame than normal.

But if you look at the hood hold down latches they appear to be the 1932 style rather than the earlier Model A style see: http://www.speedwaymotors.com/1932-Ford-Hood-Latch-Black,3050.html

Clearly several parts have been changed out over the years (i.e. hydraulic brakes, tube shocks etc.) But based on the position of the top door hinge it is NOT a 1932 body.

Assuming the cowl band is original and the top part of the radiator is original then it would be a 1931 Model A Ford. But they could have easily grafted the front half of one body onto another body and it could be anything at that point.

A few other photos would clarify if it was mostly Model A or not.

Respectfully submitted,

Hap l9l5 cut off


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Ricks - Surf City on Saturday, December 29, 2012 - 10:16 pm:

Because of our schizophrenic policies against Communist Cuba, (compared to Communist China), they haven't been able to get many American car parts for about 50 years. They have just kept patching the old ones. There was even a tv show with all their worn out cool collector cars.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Harold Schwendeman - Sumner,WA on Saturday, December 29, 2012 - 10:37 pm:

Ralph - I had the same idea; whatever that old Ford is, I'll bet it has about a million miles on it! It's a Model A radiator shell alright, but that ol' truck could be a composite of several vehicles but you can't really tell from that head-on view. Actually, I said "Ford", however the front bumper has sort of a Chrysler Corp. look about it and there might be quite a variety of parts from several different makes. The sun visor over that home-made windshield frame doesn't look quite Model A either.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Harold Schwendeman - Sumner,WA on Saturday, December 29, 2012 - 10:39 pm:

One thing's for certain though; he's darn sure not gonna' loose that radiator cap!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Ed in California on Saturday, December 29, 2012 - 10:42 pm:

It is a 28-29 with a 31 radiator shell made to fit.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Enos Wiseman on Saturday, December 29, 2012 - 11:11 pm:

A friend of mine travels quite a bit to Cuba and have takes lots of pictures including old cars. I'll see if he has any more of this one taken from different angles. Richard I'll ask him to get that plate for you. Thanks for all the information.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mark Gregush Portland Oregon on Saturday, December 29, 2012 - 11:53 pm:

It does not have the hood sills of the 28-29 so it's a 30 or 31.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By David Dewey, N. California on Sunday, December 30, 2012 - 02:27 am:

Hard to tell with just a front view like that, but those are 30-31 style fenders & radiator apron. However, I don't see a bead in the hood top, which 30-31 hoods all have. Knowing that windshield frames tend to get iron cancer, I can believe that someone made a near-look-alike.
Couldn't they import parts from Industria Argentina, who made many A parts back in the '60s?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By A. J. "Art" Bell on Sunday, December 30, 2012 - 03:17 am:

Perhaps this is a piece of the puzzle . . .



Text was translated by Google.
Location may be Copacabana (Rio de Janeiro)

Regards
Art


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Willis Jenkins on Sunday, December 30, 2012 - 03:52 am:

Why do the fenders look different in the corners? Are they from different years or perhaps bondo?

Willis


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Constantine in Melbourne, Australia on Sunday, December 30, 2012 - 04:08 am:

I could be wrong but the front bumper and overriders look like they're from a Graham "Sharknose" 1938-40.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Enos Wiseman on Sunday, December 30, 2012 - 08:56 am:

This picture I posted was taken by my friend Todd on one of his many trips to Cuba. He has ton's of old car pictures that he said he'd send me.He said they have parts of many different cars made to fit other cars just to keep them running.He said he's even seen a diesel in an old Toyota car. I won't put any of the pictures on here though. I see where the picture I posted on top already has be played with by putting it in black and white and placing another plate on it. Thanks for all your comments. Hope you all have a Happy New Year.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Chris Bamford, Edmonton AB on Sunday, December 30, 2012 - 10:26 am:

While in Cuba three years ago I shot a great many old American cars including this yellow Model A taxi. The cream and orange body in the final pictures is on a VW beetle chassis — as such, the jug of water (oil?) on the front fender is rather a mystery.












Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Richard Wolf on Sunday, December 30, 2012 - 10:29 am:

Great pictures. Thank you


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Nathan Bright on Sunday, December 30, 2012 - 10:32 am:

the chain on the radiator cap makes it look very sophisticated... Like the chain on a monocle or a pocket watch haha!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By A. J. "Art" Bell on Sunday, December 30, 2012 - 02:37 pm:

Hi Enos
The photo that as you say “has been played” was not posted
to be disrespectful of you or your friend, but only as a strange
find of its use by someone with Photoshop skills claiming it
as a their “Ford, Model 1923” needing the bumper repaired.
Good catch on the plate modification, I missed that!
I think the blog that it was posted in was dated 2006 or 7.

Regards
Art


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Randy Driscoll on Sunday, December 30, 2012 - 02:51 pm:

That appears to be a pressurized radiator cap. It probably has a modern engine to go with it.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Steve Jelf, Parkerfield KS on Sunday, December 30, 2012 - 03:19 pm:

Speaking of playing with pictures, why is the car in color in that first photo while the rest of the picture is in black & white?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By A. J. "Art" Bell on Sunday, December 30, 2012 - 05:50 pm:

Good question Steve but as my skills with Photoshop are in the ‘playing around’
class, and I would have to stumble into doing that rather than knowing how to.
The amount of imbedded info in digital photos can be mind blowing, but requires
a better ‘blown mind’ than mine to decipher it all in a meaningful way.
The photo in question has been through Photoshop CS3, but I would image many
Photoshop users employ it as a standard to simply view, crop or re-size their photos,
and it’s likely that Enos’s friend being an avid photographer has the skills to use it
to bring the main subject forward in this way.

Of course to a Model A owner, any and all A’s stand out in a photo <@^@>



Regards
Art


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Enos Wiseman on Sunday, December 30, 2012 - 07:07 pm:

Nice Car Art.
Yes my friend does photography. He's been doing weddings since the 70's.
I like the model A. When I was a boy about the early 60's, walking to school in the rain, I would always go into a barn to avoid the heavy downpours. There was a model A in there. The owner was a first world war vet and had lost a leg so I don't think he could drive it any more.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Luke Dahlinger on Sunday, December 30, 2012 - 07:23 pm:

The yellow taxi in Chris' photo is not a Model A. Look closer- it's a '32 with a Model A radiator shell.

The frame photo confirms it's a '32 as well. Definitely a car I would like to get my hands on. I'd get rid of the bondo'ed up fenders tho.


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