Antique License Plate

Topics Last Day Last Week Tree View    Getting Started Formatting Troubleshooting Program Credits    New Messages Keyword Search Contact Moderators Edit Profile Administration
Model T Ford Forum: Forum 2005: Antique License Plate
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jim McDermaid on Thursday, April 13, 2006 - 07:23 pm:

This is my post-a-picture test.

I had an Arizona vanity plate “T-FORD” but thought this would be cooler.

Arizona says I have to have the stickers in the upper corners and they can’t cover any of the text or graphic on the plate. The stickers are actually touching the plate.

It took two years on ebay to win a bid, I cleared the number with MVD on each of several bids, finally got the plate did some body work on it and bead blasted it and repainted it.

Spent two hours at MVD convincing them it was legal to use this old plate on my old car.

Fortunately AZ only requires one license plate on a vehicle and in fact only issues one plate.

Jim



Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Alex Alongi on Thursday, April 13, 2006 - 07:47 pm:

When I took my Cal '22 plates to the DMV to register them, it was slow motion time, although I handed them their own regulations on year of make plates, they had to measure them & their measurements only went back to '28 (had to give them my tiny 3' pocket tape to do it) they still didn't know what do, so I said, why don't you photocopy 1 send it to Sacramento & let them worry about it. The guy smiled & did it (I'm in Civil service & the 1st thing you learn is how to kiss the work off to someone else. 2 weeks later I got the sticker's & registration & a metal tab to bolt behind the plate for the tags. They inadvertanly sent me 2. If you want one E-mail me with an address & I'll send the extra to you.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Willie R on Thursday, April 13, 2006 - 08:40 pm:

Jim,

good job on your plate. Its to bad AZ made you use the stickers along with your antique 1922 plate. I would bet that 98% of the people registering there 80 + year old cars knows way more what is legal than the person behind the counter. When I was dealing with my 1912 plate a couple weeks ago, the DOL gave me to the new person.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Rene Rondeau on Thursday, April 13, 2006 - 09:58 pm:

I guess I got lucky when I got Calif. YOM plates for my '28 Model A. The clerk was not only friendly (!) but she was totally familiar with the YOM program. She whipped out the paperwork in no time flat, gave me a temp sticker for the window and said to go ahead and mount the plates while waiting for the stickers to come from Sacramento. It was the easiest transaction I ever had with DMV, oddly enough.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Paul Smith on Thursday, April 13, 2006 - 10:56 pm:

Jim
Very very nice job on the '22 plate. I found my AZ 1925 plate after a 4 month search on ebay. I thought of something like what you have to attach the tags. Now all I have to find is the propper license plate holder for a 25 coupe. I need to find a spare tire holder as well. Anyone have any suggestions? Like the tail light too!!
Paul


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Larry Smith on Friday, April 14, 2006 - 10:39 am:

I used a vehicle registration service here in Los Angeles. His fee was around $125, but was well worth it. I had no problems registering my '25. He even checked the original '25 plates I wanted to use, and the stickers came for the plates this week. When you see the caliber of people working at the DMV, you appreciate working with an independent registration service. I had no paperwork on this vehicle at all, since I'm putting together this car from parts. He took care of everything.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Noel Denis Chicoine, MD on Friday, April 14, 2006 - 12:01 pm:

You guys are lucky to be able to have YOM plates on your cars. Here in South Dakota, there is no provision for such a thing. I can have "historic plates" that are permanent but only allow use in parades, special occasions, and to get gas or service. I can purchase "vanity plates" that say whatever I want, but I must first purchase annual plates and keep them in the car (under the seat) and then annually purchase the vanity plates that could say "23 T" or whatever. I've checked with DMV for any way to have YOM plates and have been told to "talk to the legislature"
Noel


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dick Lodge on Friday, April 14, 2006 - 02:19 pm:

Noel,

Talking to the legislature is exactly what you have to do. We have been lucky in Missouri to have had several old-car advocates in the legislature through the years.

Here's the url of Missouri's historic vehicle statute. The late Bud Barnes got the 1,000 personal miles added to the otherwise limited use, and then-Representative (now Senator) John Loudon got us the YOM provision.

http://www.moga.mo.gov/statutes/C300-399/3010000131.HTM

Dick


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Erik Johnson on Friday, April 14, 2006 - 05:02 pm:

Noel:

South Dakota actually does allow year of manufacture plates. The text below is from the South Dakota Department of Transportation website:

Historical Vehicle Original License Plates

Who is eligible?: A motor vehicle (does not include motorcycles) registered pursuant to 32-5-77 (historical vehicle) may, in lieu-of being issued number plates, display original South Dakota number plates issued in the same year as the model year of the car on which they are displayed.

Special Requirements: The plates must be in good condition and cannot be used if the number on the original plate is identical to a number on any other plate in a numbering system currently being used.

Plate Fee: A fee of $10 shall be assessed.
To apply: MV-307
Applicable law: 32-5-77

Click on the link below to see the webpage.

http://www.state.sd.us/drr2/motorvehicle/licenseplates/historical_vehicle_orgina l.htm

Erik Johnson
Minneapolis, MN


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By doug hauge on Saturday, April 15, 2006 - 06:22 pm:

here in the state of high taxes (new York) i register all my Ts with the standard NY plate. i throw them under the seat and never put them on. i have the proper year original plates on all my cars. i hate the look of the new ones so i have always displayed my original ones. if i wanted to register the t with the correct vintage plate the state charges us a lot more money. so i just register the cars the new way and run the old plates. if i ever get stopped i can prove the proper plates are under the seat. the sticker on the windshied is current and updated every year.i drive thousands of miles per year and have never had any trouble.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Kenneth Bove on Sunday, April 16, 2006 - 07:34 am:

I live in New York and pay $23 a year to use YOM plates. That is cheaper than regular plates.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Rene Rondeau on Sunday, April 16, 2006 - 12:34 pm:

I once got stopped by a local policeman who was unaware of the YOM law and thought my plate was illegal. I was able to show him that it matched the registration and enlightened him on the law. That was several years back, I hope they're more aware today. It would have been more complicated if I'd been using a YOM plate with the legal plate hidden in the car. I suppose it would be up to the individual cop as to how to handle that. It's an incredibly minor thing but a cop who wanted to press the letter of the law could make life difficult.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Noel Denis Chicoine, MD on Monday, April 17, 2006 - 02:27 pm:

Erik, Thanks for the update.
I just checked with DMV. Yes, I can use YOM plates on my car! I need front and back since SD used 2 plates since 1913. However, they are under the same regulations as "historical plates" in that I can only drive a vehicle so equiped in parades or special occasions. It looks like I'm back to the same problem, since I drive my vehicle to the hospital, on nursing home rounds, and for short errands around town, or with my 85 year old mother to get an ice cream cone! Looks like I'll have to talk to the legislature.
Noel


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dick Lodge - St. Louis MO on Tuesday, April 18, 2006 - 08:17 am:

Noel, take a look at the Missouri historic vehicle law. (I posted the link in this thread on April 14.) We have the same limitations on use as most states, but we also get 1,000 personal miles beyond that. Technically, we are supposed to carry a log in the car to keep track of the personal miles, but I have never heard of anyone being asked to show the log. Also not sure how to keep a log of miles driven in a car without an odometer. It helps to have a legislator who is an antique car guy, of course. We've been lucky in that regard.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Noel Denis Chicoine, MD on Tuesday, April 18, 2006 - 09:26 am:

Well,
I live in the state capital, and have access to a few of the legislators. Perhaps I can get the law changed, or initiate the process. I talked to a clerk yesterday and was told that I would need 2 plates, which are hard to find. I found a single plate. I remember hearing about someplace that will make a plate for you if you have one. The clerk told me that both need to be made by the state, but the application only needs a picture of the plate. I suspect that a good reproduction would pass without comment as long as the number isn't being used. The other comment from the clerk was that it wouldn't be fair to have this plate and only pay $10 for it and use it for lifetime use. All our other plates require a yearly sticker to be placed on them, and they are replaced every 3 or 4 years. Why not just require a yearly sticker to go on the antique plate? I guess I've got some things to work on. Thanks for the advice. I'll look at the other state's laws to have information to give to my legislators.
Noel


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dick Lodge - St. Louis MO on Tuesday, April 18, 2006 - 09:37 am:

When our YOM law first went into effect, we had to pay the vanity plate fee every year. The state rep who had originated the law (his dad is an old car nut) fixed that and the next year we got a letter from the Dept of Revenue stating that the YOM plates would work the same way as the historic vehicle plates, i.e. a one-time fee upon first registration and then no fee or charge thereafter. The more I hear about other states, the luckier I think we are.
Dick


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By TJ on Friday, December 08, 2006 - 08:10 pm:

Has anyone seen the new Gatoradee ad which is out?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mike Perigo on Saturday, December 09, 2006 - 07:44 am:

Indiana passed the statute last July, but our local BMV has not heard of it yet. When it comes times to get new plates, I'll show them the law. I know all the women who work there, but sometimes they can be a little bi stitchy:-)

Mike


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mark Wetherbee on Monday, December 11, 2006 - 01:20 pm:

Maine has the best I've heard of...

Title29-A-457...

3. Contemporary plates. An owner of an antique auto, horseless carriage, street rod or antique motorcycle may use registration plates that were issued in the same year the antique vehicle was manufactured, as long as the motor vehicle:

A. Is over 25 years old; [1993, c. 683, Pt. A, §2 (new); Pt. B, §5 (aff).]
B. Is registered as an antique vehicle; and [1993, c. 683, Pt. A, §2 (new); Pt. B, §5 (aff).]
C. Carries a valid antique motor vehicle registration certificate and plates. [1993, c. 683, Pt. A, §2 (new); Pt. B, §5 (aff).]
[1993, c. 683, Pt. A, §2 (new); Pt. B, §5 (aff).]

4. Display of contemporary plates. Contemporary registration plates must have matching plate numbers, be affixed to both the front and rear and conspicuously bear the year of manufacture.[1993, c. 683, Pt. A, §2 (new); Pt. B, §5 (aff).]


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Bill Maurits on Monday, December 11, 2006 - 01:57 pm:

Maryland is pretty easy. The vehicle must be tagged w/ current MD 'historic' plates and they just piggyback the YOM plates onto your registration. They just check a list to make sure the plates are the correct color for that year, and you pay a ONE TIME FEE of $25, and you take your stickers home right then and there. The only catch is you have to keep the historic plates in the vehicle, but no stickers are required to be placed on your YOM plates, they go on the MD historic plates.

Bill M
21 T Depot Hack


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mark Gregush on Monday, December 11, 2006 - 03:34 pm:

Oregon was easy, took my title and plates to the DMV, they checked to see if the number was ok. A one time fee of 85$ and I was given a life time special interest registration. No yearly fees, no other plates. They never mentioned any limit on miles or activities that I was limited to. (I did not ask)
MarkG


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Seth Harbuck on Monday, December 11, 2006 - 03:46 pm:

Louisiana is very easy. You get a regular plate like everyone else, you apply for a new plate sticker every two years ($20) like everyone else, and you have annual inspections with windshield decal ($10) like everyone else.

If you live in one of the several parishes (counties) which require an emissions test as part of the annual inspection, I don't know what happens.

Seth


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Tom Mullin on Monday, December 11, 2006 - 04:50 pm:

Seth,

How do you pass the brake inspections when Model Ts only have brakes in the rear - and those are actually on the transmission drum?

When I was stationed in Virginia, the locals had to pass inspection every six months - that often included taking off a wheel to inspect the brakes.

The Michigan process is pretty easy - and the YOM plates do not expire at all.

michigan YOM

Tom


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Seth Harbuck on Monday, December 11, 2006 - 05:00 pm:

Tom,

There is no inspection of the brakes except that they work correctly. No inspections are allowed on rainy days because they are to be tested on dry pavement. I don't know what the "pass" criteria is.

All I know is that my car passes and I get a sticker! :-)

Seth


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Ray Harper on Tuesday, December 12, 2006 - 10:03 am:

Alabama passed the law in Oct this year you could run a tag the year of your car. I went to the tag office 2 weeks after and had the T's and A tag change over to a tag the year of the car. Took a while to do this because I was the 1st at this tag office. But after about 2 hours and many phone calls the office got it done. In Alabama all you do is take the tag you are running and the year of car tag. They will keep the tag you take off and give you a one time sticker for your antique tag. Alabama has no Inspections. The cost one time $11.25.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By John T. Tannehill III on Thursday, December 14, 2006 - 01:31 am:

Anyone interested in a really nice 1914 Indiana tag for their car? I bought it for what I thought was a late 14 roadster but I was wrong on the year its an early 15 and since a fourteen or fifteen Mississippi tag is as hard to fine as hens teeth I bought it. Why I don't know but because the state(MS)will not let me use it. I would rather see someone get it that could really enjoy it on their T.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Bill Maurits on Friday, January 19, 2007 - 11:38 am:

In MD, there is no inspection required for antique or street rod vehicles AT ALL!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Bryan Grube on Saturday, January 20, 2007 - 11:09 am:

I wish PA did something like that. We had a blue plate for antique vehicles for years, but they have since replaced it with a plate that has a picture of a mid thirties oldsmobile on it. What self respecting Ford man would want a picture of an Olds on his car? Some obviously that was not into cars came up with that idea.
Maybe I should write my Senator.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Kathy Harris on Saturday, January 20, 2007 - 07:28 pm:

In Texas, once a car is 25 years old (Classic) it only needs a safety inspection to make sure that the safety features to that year are still in working order, ie: seat belts, lights, windshield wipers, horn and brakes. . . needless to say, since none of this was standard equipment on a T there is no inspection, and we have never been stopped for not having a sticker.

We can register as "Antique" which is for parades, tours, meetings and special interest occasions and I don't think there is a mileage limit. Vintage plates that are Year and Paint correct for the year are acceptable, but can only be registered to one owner. Once the owner sells the car he/she is suppose to retain the plates. There is a registration fee every five years and you receive a metal tag that is attached at the top of the plate.

When we bought our 25 Touring it was in pieces. A set of year/paint correct plates went with the car. The owner we bought it from had registered the car with those plates in his name. It took me about 20 minutes of pleading with the ladies at the DMV to transfer those plates with the registration to me. . . I told them they had NEVER been on the car - you could still smell the enamel paint from the tissue paper they were wrapped in. My pleading with the statement, "These are too wonderful and pretty to be stored in a drawer somewhere" seemed to do the trick. They are a beautiful maroon background with off white numbers and will be on our car forever.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Gary Schreiber on Saturday, January 27, 2007 - 08:00 pm:

I have a very nie 26 North Carolina plate I'd swap for a 26 South Carolina plate


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Byron on Tuesday, January 30, 2007 - 09:48 pm:

Noel:
If South Dakota has vanity plates, you should have it made in the shade. Here in Calif, I bought a single plate of the year I want ('13 & older) which are real cheap (calif uses 2 plates, so single plates arn't worth much), and request a vanity plate with the numbers on my single origional plate. The front plate on calif cars most often times used a 'screen plate', literally made from porch screen with a 1/8" weldng wire rod frame, using house numbers. Theres nothing saying that I cant use my origional plate, as it now has the proper numbers as shown on my registration papers. Been working so far !!!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Andrea Davide on Wednesday, January 31, 2007 - 12:32 pm:

Kathy,
How I wish I could register my Italian T in Texas...
She's still sitting in a barn due to the impossibility to register her here...
Andrea


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jim Weir on Wednesday, January 31, 2007 - 01:31 pm:

I went to our local DMV with a hand writen Texas bill of sale for my '24 C-Cab, a set of '24 California plates and my insurance certificate in hand. I was turned over to a trainee, expecting to have to wrestle Arnold, our Govenor. He went to his supervisor and asked two questions and was handed two books. He knew how to use an index! 20 minutes later I walked out with my paper work in hand and a receipt for $620 which included the salestax for the truck. Great experience!

Sincerely

Jim Weir


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Gilbert V. I. Fitzhugh on Wednesday, January 31, 2007 - 03:26 pm:

Andrea, in the days before the collapse of the Soviet Union, there was a joke in the U.S. that went like this:

In the United Kingdom, everything is permitted that isn't prohibited.

In Germany, everything is prohibited that isn't permitted.

In the Soviet Union, everything is prohibited, even if it's permitted.

In Italy, everything is permitted, ESPECIALLY if it's prohibited.

If you're being prohibited from registering your car by some Italian bureaucrat, maybe you should shop for a friendlier bureaucrat!


Posting is currently disabled in this topic. Contact your discussion moderator for more information.
Topics Last Day Last Week Tree View    Getting Started Formatting Troubleshooting Program Credits    New Messages Keyword Search Contact Moderators Edit Profile Administration