I'm a HapTy Boy! (with pics)

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Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Bob Poane on Sunday, December 10, 2006 - 02:05 pm:

A few days ago I started a thread titled,'ok amenities?, ok price?' and you gave me great feed back from "buy it if you like it" to "buyer beware." I appreciated your thoughts, thought about what you said and bought it. And I love it and now I'm a HapTy Boy!! I figured, if I bought an all original, I'd wind up modifying it to some degree anyway and I'd be back up or more to the $16,500 I paid. The rear and engine restoration is about 4-6 years old. The only thing that bothers me is psychological. It doesn't have that 'T' sound. I guess it's the muffler or New Zealand cam? It has Ruckstell rear, Rocky's, new radiator, 12 volt (again psychological, I like the 6 volt and old pain in the neck timer system, but I'm not complaining), the water pump spits anitfreeze, but I plan on stripping down and cleaning her up as a winter project. Lastly, can you tell if it is a 14 frame or 27 frame like the engine? Thanks for you remarks. Bob Poane1914 11


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Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Hap Tucker on Sunday, December 10, 2006 - 03:16 pm:

Bob,

Nice looking car. As with all the other parts of the car, the frame and attached riveted parts can be assembled from parts from several different years. In general one of the easy ways to tell a 1926-27 original frame is to look at the rear cross member. In the picture below (I don't remember who posted it -- but thank you to someone out there), the frame with the wider rear cross member is representative of the 1926-27 style (from memory I believe the early 1926 was wider across but not nearly as heavy duty as the one shown in the picture -- if anyone has a photo of the early 1926 rear cross member -- please share it for comparison purposes). The smaller rear cross member is the late 1913-25 style.



The dash brackets, running board brackets, and emergency brake brackets changed over the years. The size of the rear cross member is not visible in your pictures -- but you should be able to look under it and see which type is there.

Some of the items that are visible:
Front axle -- spring perches 1919 to 27
Front axle -- spindles pre-1926 -- i.e. they are NOT the 1926-27 type that lower the front end of the car. They are also the two piece design that was introduced in 1911. If they have the hole for the speedometer in the passenger side steering arm then it would be 1911-15 or so. See http://www.mtfca.com/encyclo/F-H.htm#fr1 for a list of differences over the years for the front axle assembly parts.

From one of you pictures it appears that you have the pressed steel running board braces which were introduced around 1921. See: http://www.mtfca.com/encyclo/C-D.htm#Chassis1 additional details about the frames (including the rear cross member) such as it going from 4 rivets holding the emergency brake quadrant to two rivets around 1925 etc.

And of course Bruce's book "The Model T Ford" would help you identify the different parts and which years they were used. From the photos it looks like you have a nice T to enjoy. You didn't say if you are very familiar with them or this is the first one you really will be driving much. If it is the first one you are driving -- let us know and we can share some safety items (such as front axle castor) that can cause you trouble if you aren't aware of them.

Good luck and have fun.

Hap 1915 Model T Touring cut off and made into a pickup truck and 1907 Model S Ford Runabout in South Carolina


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Bob Poane on Sunday, December 10, 2006 - 03:26 pm:

Hap thanks for the info. I am going to print out what you and others say and when I take off the fenders to clean them I will have a better idea what I have under the body.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By paul griesse on Sunday, December 10, 2006 - 04:47 pm:

Bob-------does it run on mag? If so I would definately pull that distributer and set properly adjusted coils in there. Looks like thats a 12V alternater installed? You`d need to replace that too, for a proper 6V set-up. If you have a stock 6V starter in there now, converting back to 6V will save your bendix and ringgear, too. Looks like this will be a good "touring" car and you are right about not having to spend the $`s to upgrade an origional. Congrats on a nice looking T!!! Paul


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By dan on Sunday, December 10, 2006 - 08:51 pm:

I see that you have a modern "glasspack" muffler welded on, simply cut it off, and replace with a stock exhaust, and it will sound like a T again.


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