I have a 24 Fordor and have been trying to find a window regulator for the right rear door for some time. I recently procured two doors that were sold as '24 Fordor rear doors but I was dissapointed to find a somewhat different mounting arrangement for the regulator than that on my car. The gear boxes are the same but the mounting plate and the riser arm are different. That leads me to question which set of door window regulators are really for a '24 Fordor. I've attached a picture of the regulator in my car. Can someone identify it for me and let me know if parts from this type are available or can others be modified to work? Thanks Ed

Ed this is what the original assembly should look like. As you can see it has the ears broken off the pot metal gear housing. A common defect to this part. If your gears and housings are in OK working order the other remaining parts shouldn't be to hard to fabricate. Bob
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There appears to have been at least three and maybe four types of regulators used in the 23 and 24 Fordors. I have even seen one type in the front doors and another type in the rear doors of the same car. The jackscrew type that you have is usually in bad shape due to the potmetal housing just plain falling apart. Langs shows new housings in their catalog, but they have not been available. Search the past postings for window regulators. There was a discussion about a year or so ago about those housings and some of the guys were making them themselves. Maybe they could help you out.

Where do you get the brass roller attached to the end of the arm that runs in the window channel. I have a 1926 Fordor and I need 4 rollers. The rest of my system is okay.
Is anybody making these rollers or is there a modern bearing number I can purchase
Thanks
Garry

Thanks for the info guys. Actually, the gears, jackscrew and housings that were on the doors I bought are in decent shape. My problem is getting or making the other parts, ie. mounting plate, riser arm and spring. Bob, the picture you show is exactly the regulator that's on my left side rear door (the one I pictured). Since I don't have a machine shop of my own, I guess I'll have to keep looking for one like yours only for the right side, or find someone to make the parts I need. Anyhow the question of what year my regulators are seems to have been answered. Thanks for your time guys, I appreciate it. Ed

Ed,

The three parts you mentioned should not require a machine shop. I think with a good vice, hammer, hack saw/saber saw, drill etc. you have a great chance of making the mounting plate (if you are talking about he the largest part that bolt to the door and holds the regulator. From the picture it looks simple (of course I can't see the other sides). And it will be hidden by the upholstery. The spring -- if you have a sample you should be able to go to NAPA (auto parts store) or hardware store, even Home Depot should have some springs you might be able to adapt. It doesn't have to be exactly the same -- and you could even rig it with two springs held together with a small turnbuckle if you needed to do that. But I think you will be able to find several that will work.

The riser arm should be the reverse image of the one on the other side. Adn you may be able to find another one similar that could be adapted and/or find someone who needs one and is willing to make two -- on for them and one for you.

Gary,

Take a look at your window chanel and how the roller fits into it. You may be able to adapt a different type of roller. Also check out a boating supply place -- that roller looks simial to some small pulleys I have seen somewhere (perhaps even Lowe's -- back in their rope section?). For sure someone could machine one for you, but I think there is a good chance you could find something that could be modified. Do you have any Model A Ford buddies? It has been a long time, but I almost think they didn't even have a "roller" that rolled. It just fit in the slot in the window channel and with some grease on it -- it slide and lifted the window. Maybe someone else who has a Model A window regulator handy can tell us if there is a roller there or just a slider.

Good luck to both of you and if you find a good substitute part, be sure to let others know also.

Hap 1915 Model T Touring cut off and made into a pickup truck and 1907 Model S Ford Runabout in South Carolina

Hap
Thanks for the suggestion. My rollers appear to be pot metal and are still intact and round but do not rotate on the centre pin. Perhaps they were meant to just slide with grease like you suggested.
I will do more research and advise my findings
Garry

Go to a gun shop and get some Kroil and soak the rollers in it. That should free the rollers. The hard part to find is the pot metal housing.I redid my 24 tudor and gog mine from langs. Also try Jack Daron

As we speak,I am having the machinest redo a set of these window regulators. The hardest part will be the round brass in the arm where the long screw goes through it. Some of these were pot metal and really no good at all. The rollers should turn and we will redo them in brass. He is currently out of aluminum gear housings,but will make up some more.

Hap, thanks for the encouragement and suggestions. Sounds like something I could pull off, at least I'll give it a try. For sure we'll let you all know how things turn out and if we find good substitutes we'll let you know that also. Thanks again, Ed

Bob Scherzer made some up - here's the thread from the other forum.
He's the man when it comes to casting. Got a great coil tester handle from him.

http://www.modeltforum.org/cgi-bin/webbbs/webbbs_config_512.pl?noframes;read=96676

Jack, Just wondering if your guy is making up any arms? Would be interested if he is. Ed

I have one extra arm,don't remember which side it is for. It doesn't have the brass piece in it for the long screw to go into.

Jack, If it's for the right side (the mirrow image of the regulator pictured by Bob Scherzer in this thread) That would be great. I have the brass piece. Send me an e-mail if we can work out something. Thanks Ed

Ed, I'll check and see. I left it at the machine shop,so He could se how the pieces all fit together.

Jack, Were you able to check with the machine shop yet?

Ed, the extra one I have is exactly like the one Bob showed.

Jack, Thanks for checking into it for me. I appreciate it.