T-100, four years later

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Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Richard on Sunday, February 18, 2007 - 05:46 pm:

I seem to remember that when this project was done, Ford touted the fact that the every part of the T-100's were each newly manufactured. I was just wondering if all of these parts are commercially available to enthusiasts or were just one off parts.

I remember that the bodies were supposed to become available, but as of yet have not been produced again.

Also, was the cost to build each T-100 ever released? I would be curious to find out how much more expensive they were than the originals.

I also seem to remember that one article stated that ford would be giving rides in these at the centenial celebration back in 2003, did anyone here get to see what a brand new T was like?

Sorry to be four years late on the topic, but I find T-100 sites, which were scarce to begin with, have almost completely dried up.

Thank you


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Tom Mullin on Sunday, February 18, 2007 - 06:01 pm:

Richard,

For the latest on the T-100 cars, come visit Greenfield Village and see four of them in operation. The other two cars are still in Ford's hands and on display at their offices.

As I understand the cars, much was new but some was previously used from original Model T production. The people who worked on that project can likely provide many of the missing details.

Tom


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Randy Myers on Sunday, February 18, 2007 - 06:15 pm:

Richard,
Their's a T-100 body for sale in the classifieds here.
Randy


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Richard on Sunday, February 18, 2007 - 06:17 pm:

Actually it was that body that got me into thinking about it again.

So four of the cars ended up at greenfield? I thought they were supposed to be distributed to exhibitions across the nation.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Michael K Johnson on Sunday, February 18, 2007 - 06:40 pm:

I rode in one at Greenfield Village this last summer and the driver told me it cost $120,000 which I would think might be a low figure but it could be paid off giving 24,000 rides at $5 a pop.

He said the reason they were so high was a problem with DOT because the government would only recognize them as new vehicles. This meant they would have to conform to all the regular motor vehicle regulations. So the price was way up there because only a few were produced and the project was curtailed. None of them could be licienced or ever be street legal.

This is just what I heard from a Greenfield driver.

This is too bad but understandable. Aircraft have an experimental category which allows someone to build, licience, fly, buy and sell a home built without all the FAA regulations applicable.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Guy Zaninovich on Sunday, February 18, 2007 - 06:43 pm:

Yes, four of the T-100 cars were given to Greenfield Village and are being used as ride vehicles. Car #5 in on display at Ford's World Headquarters in Dearborn and I use it for publicity events on a fairly regular basis-it has been driven about 6,000 miles since it was built. Car #6 is at Ford's office in the UK and also gets a fair amount of use. Many of the parts specially made for the project are available and offered through the various vendor's catalogs (1914 coilboxes for example). The bodies were made in Sweden and were available in the states after the project was completed. I believe that due to high exchange rates (low US dollar), increased shipping costs and increased building costs, these bodies are not being marketed in the US anymore, but could probably be custom ordered through Lang's.Thanks for your continued interest!
-GZ at FMC (T-100 project manager)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Hap Tucker on Sunday, February 18, 2007 - 07:04 pm:

Richard,

See: http://www.vmcca.org/bh/T-100%20story.pdf for an excellent summary of what was created new. As was previously shared on the forum the engine blocks were cast new but to my knowledge there are no plans to cast additional blocks or make additional new transmissions etc. I.e there isn't enough supply and demand to make it worthwhile.

Hap 1915 Model T Touring cut off and made into a pickup truck and 1907 Model S Ford Runabout in South Carolina


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Eric Hylen on Sunday, February 18, 2007 - 07:18 pm:

At the risk of sounding like I'm trying to sell via the forum, I'll tell you what I know about the T-100 bodies.

Last spring, I got to talking with Don Lang at Chickasha about the bodies. I had mentioned that I was saving up '14 parts and when I had chassis ready, I'd order a body from him. He told me that they were not only no longer being made, but, due to the age of the builder and the exchange rate, it was unlikely that they'd ever make any more. He was out, but thought that Snyder's had a couple left. I decided that if I ever wanted one, I better pony up. I called Snyder's and learned that there were only two left anywhere. I bought one and a friend bought the other. They arrived here in St. Cloud, MN in a custom built double-stacked crate.

I later learned that Sven, the coachbuilder, built 25 T-100 bodies complete with hinges, door latches and in-body irons. Six bodies went to Ford. The remaining 19 were sold to the public. I can say that the craftsmanship is outstanding. The doors just click to latch.

I listed the body with some regret. But, life changes, such as; my upcoming wedding, moving and the recent purchase of an original '14 Touring, make continuing the project and keeping the T-100 body impractical.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Guy Zaninovich on Sunday, February 18, 2007 - 08:45 pm:

I cannot over emphasize the quality of the 1914 touring bodies that were supplied by Sven and his crew. Everything about these bodies is top notch and they are an excellent value. The person who buys Eric's touring body will be very happy with their purchase!- GZ @ FMC


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mack Jeffrey Cole on Sunday, February 18, 2007 - 08:46 pm:

I got to ride in 1 of the T100's in 03 when I went to michigan.I ask to ride in the front seat because at that time I had never actually riden in a real model T allthough I had been working on 1 for several years.I loved it.It was strange to be looking at a model t that had no rust pits in those hard to see areas,nothing worn out,just perfect.It rode.It seems like I read somewhere that the engines had to be rebuilt or something.maby I am wrong.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jim Cook on Sunday, February 18, 2007 - 11:12 pm:

The engines on the Museum cars did need to be reworked because of 3 things.

1. The engines are never taken out on the city streets. The low RPM's to take them around the village at 5 mph has caused excessive wear on the top of the cylinder walls because of lack of oil splash.

2. Those pans that were so hard to form, never did come out to original Ford standards. They were leaking oil all over the place. They've been replaced by straighten originals

3. The museum decided to put starters on the cars. So, the aluminum hogsheads have been removed in favor of steel ones with starter holes. At this same time, the magneto coil rings were fixed and starter teeth added.

The new transmissions showed no signs of wear, nor did the valves, mains, rods. and cam.

BTW, Jack Putnam has one of the 1914 Roadster bodies and it is a work of art. Sven did great work. It just wasn't worth the international hassle. Nice guy all around. He always talked through one of his helpers.

Tour America,
JC :-)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By David_Cockey on Sunday, February 18, 2007 - 11:56 pm:

We took a Model T driving course at Greenfield Village 3 or 4 years ago, and the car we drove was a T100. That was the first time I'd driven a Model T. Unfortunately the course is no longer offered.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Richard on Monday, February 19, 2007 - 10:10 pm:

Thank you for all of the great information and for the link to the website. The engineers who worked on this project were quite lucky.


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