Speedster steering column lowering

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Model T Ford Forum: Forum 2005: Speedster steering column lowering
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dave_Sosnoski on Sunday, April 22, 2007 - 11:17 am:

We had our first beautiful day here yesterday in Mass - sunny and around 70 (yes - last week we did get snow and rain!). Took the 23 touring out and gave it the once over and went for a little ride. Took out one of the 24 coupes and did some work on that. Then my son wanted to work on the speedster I've been building. It's a 20's style enclose speedster - something like a Mercury. I had a junk engine block and hogs head stuck in there just to check clearances (no pedals). We pulled that out and installed a complete engine assembly (complete with pedals) so I could fab up some seats and make sure it was comfortable reaching the pedals. That's when I discovered that when I press the low pedal it hits the bottom of the steering column! I guess I've lowered it a little too much. Measuring up from the top of the frame rails to the center of the steering column I have about 24". Could someone with a speedster measure the distance from the center of the steering wheel nut to the top of the frame so I can get an idea of where I should be?

Speedster Steering Column

Thanks,
Dave S.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Seth Harbuck on Sunday, April 22, 2007 - 11:37 am:

Dave,

Though my Speedster/Pickup looks nothing like your Speedster, the center of the nut (measured at the hex) is 21.5" above the "floor". The "floor" is 4" above the frame. I don't know if that helps you any.

Seth


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dave_Sosnoski on Sunday, April 22, 2007 - 11:51 am:

Thanks Seth,

Hmm, that's only an 1.5" different than mine. How close does your pedal come to the bottom of the steering column?

Pedal Problem

Dave S.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Seth Harbuck on Sunday, April 22, 2007 - 12:01 pm:

Dave,

The low pedal (pre-improved car like yours) is a mile away from the steering column. If anything could ever hit the steering column, it would be the reverse pedal - but it would have to have a mega-loose band for that to happen.

My steering column center is some 2/3 of the way between the clutch and reverse - closer to the reverse pedal.

Seth


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dave_Sosnoski on Sunday, April 22, 2007 - 12:07 pm:

Thanks,

I had made a new firewall and I bet I got the hole for the steering column in the wrong place!

Thanks,
Dave


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Steve Tomaso on Sunday, April 22, 2007 - 12:08 pm:

You might have to bend your pedal a bit over to the side then check for clearance with the hand brake lever. I had the same situation when I lowered and shortened my steering column. Being a bit on the short side, I had to shorten my column to reach the pedals !racer


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Steve Tomaso on Sunday, April 22, 2007 - 12:11 pm:

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Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Seth Harbuck on Sunday, April 22, 2007 - 02:59 pm:

Dave,

Both pedals pressed. Position is great - my big feet never scuff the steering column!

Seth




Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By James on Sunday, April 22, 2007 - 07:30 pm:

Ive seen people bend and or cut the pedal ...


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dave_Sosnoski on Sunday, April 22, 2007 - 09:19 pm:

Well, I played around some this afternoon and came to the conclusion that if I raised the mounting point on the firewall 1 inch it would clear the pedal. I cut out the mounting area, cut out the firewall and rewelded in the mounting area. Now the steering column clears the pedal just fine - except I have to drive with my hands over the top of my head and look out through the steering wheel. I really don't want to change the seat height because it is comfortable and my arm rests comfortably on the side of the body. If I raise the seat to match the steering wheel then the body will be too low and I will have to raise the sides of the body. Since I like the proportions of the body as they are I think I'll put the steering column back where it was and modify the pedal. Of course, that means making a new firewall from scratch as I now have a big hole in the one I had.

0 steps forward - 5 steps back! Should have stayed in bed today.

Dave S.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By John Sizemore on Sunday, April 22, 2007 - 09:52 pm:

Use the low pedal from a 26-27 style hogs head then you will have clearence.
JS


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jerry VanOoteghem on Monday, April 23, 2007 - 10:34 am:

I had to bend my pedal over just a little. If you make a nice double bend so that the pedal still stands vertical versus just simply pushing it to the left, it will hardly be noticeable.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Les Schubert on Monday, April 23, 2007 - 06:00 pm:

Dave
You might consider a early small diameter steering wheel.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Eric Hylen on Monday, April 23, 2007 - 11:37 pm:

I like Jerry's idea; just relocate the pedal a bit. If it can't go to the left, cut and shorten it. It's just the low pedal and your improved seating position ought to give you plenty of leverage on it, even if the pedal arm is a bit shorter than stock


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dan McEachern on Tuesday, April 24, 2007 - 12:03 am:

Put the steering wheel where it is comfortable for you and then just heat up the pedal with a torch and
bend it to the left so that you have clearance around the steering column. A second bend near the pedal head will straignten/align it with the other pedals and you are done. No need to cut and shorten it, just move it so that you have clearance and room for your foot. Don't bend it toward the firewall as you will create issues with being able to get complete band tightening and / or a correct neutral.


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