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Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mack Jeffrey Cole on Monday, May 07, 2007 - 01:50 pm:

well I have a off topic problem.I clearly state on my ebay auctions that I only ship within the US.
Well I ran 2 Flathead ford waterpumps on ebay last week.About the last 10 minutes of the auction,a person who isnt communicating much,from SWEDEN,won the auction.He wants me to call a company out of new jersey to have them help with the shipping.I did a reverse number search on the net and it is unlisted-private number,long distance on top of that.
So has anyone here had any experiance shipping something over there?
I would feel better if there was a way to cancel his bid and fergit about it,but due to the new feedback system and such,I dont want to screw my 100% feedback up.
In a pickle,looking for advice.
I just wish people could learn to read.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Tom Stanzione on Monday, May 07, 2007 - 02:06 pm:

Mack,

I sounds an awful lot like one of teh SCAMS that have been running out there. Since the bidder did nto comply with your auction requirements I belive that you can contact EBAY and they will cancel the auction and allow you to re list. I believe they will also protect you from any bad feedback since the bidder did not comply. You may want to look back at previous posts here for more information on how others have handled.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dave Paul on Monday, May 07, 2007 - 02:08 pm:

If you clearly stated that you only ship to US, then I would feel free to not accept his bid. I have been approached by scam artists before about using a shipping company that "they deal with". If in doubt, contact Ebay and ask how to disqualify that persons bid, and go to the next highest bidder.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Royce on Monday, May 07, 2007 - 03:26 pm:

Just cancel his bid and do a second chance offer to the under bidder. Or cancel the sale and relist the part.

Royce


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By James Wotherspoon on Monday, May 07, 2007 - 07:12 pm:

I live in Australia and sometimes a part that I really need and have never been able to track down here appears on eBay. On a number of occasions that item states that the seller will only ship to the USA. Most times depending on how much I need the part, I will ask the seller if he/she will ship internationally. There has however been occasions where the auction is extremely close to finishing and I jump in boots and all and bid without asking. Luckily I have friends who live in America and if worst comes to worst i can get it shipped to their house.

I have never been able to understand why some sellers wont ship outside of the US, but I suppose it's their perogitve to do so. From where I sit, you have all of the power. Don't ship the item until you have his money in your bank account, and you set the terms for both the payment terms and the shipping. If he/she can't abide by your rules then cancel the auction or take the next step. I have sold a number of items on eBay (going to all points of the compass)and have lived by these terms.

I suppose I feel sorry for us poor buggers internationally who sometimes get the rough end of the pineapple.

Just my thoughts,
James.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By John H on Monday, May 07, 2007 - 07:30 pm:

I agree with you James...it does annoy me that so many US based Ebay sellers won't ship to Australia, even if you ask them.
Yet, the ones that do always get immediate payment from me and there isn't any hassle.
Fortunately I am able to bypass this ignorant geographically challenged attitude (the rest of the world isn't like Nigeria) as I have a contact in L.A who runs a container to Sydney. It just takes longer that way though, long enough sometimes to the point where ebay won't accept feedback for the seller.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Kim Dobbins on Monday, May 07, 2007 - 07:53 pm:

Mack, You certainly have the right to block overseas bidders and they should respect that. On the other hand, I will ship worldwide on all my ebay auctions. I have never had a problem and friends also use my address as theres for sellers such as yourself, who choose not to deal with overseas bidders. I have never encountered a problem with that either. If you choose to ship to the seller, just go to the USPS web site and enter the destination and weight and it will tell you the shipping options. Its really pretty easy to do.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Darren J Wallace on Monday, May 07, 2007 - 08:07 pm:

It's my experience with recent buying/selling on ebay that you can actually block bidders who live outside of the US,or block all bidders who don't have their address registered within the US or Canada for example.
I live in Canada and if I see an item on ebay that the owner doesn't want to ship internatinoally,and I am really interested in it,I politely ask if he will ship to Canada.In most cases sellers are happy to comply.It now means changing your auction selling settings to include(or exclude) specific places you will ship to.
I find for sellers that are uncomfortable with shipping to Canada,I let them know I have a friend in Buffalo,N.Y. that I can use for shipping things to.
99.9% of sellers are happy to ship there,provided I pay with Paypal.
It's very unfortunate that so many people are consumed with scamming people.
I cannot even begin to imagine what a huge undertaking it must be to prevent these scumbags from constantly trying to infiltrate ebay,paypal,etc...


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Ross Benedict on Monday, May 07, 2007 - 08:08 pm:

I'm in Canada, and we even get left out from sellers not wanting to ship here too, but they will buy like crazy. I have told a number of sellers that there is a whole other market out there. Guess the little 'extra' paperwork is to much.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Ron Patterson on Monday, May 07, 2007 - 08:09 pm:

Mack
I have shipped many rebuilt Model T items overseas to Canada (yes Canada), Australia, Norway, England and Germany in small packages similar to two packed flathead Ford water pumps. In the case of known Model T customers I ship packages in advance and request "cash" by mail. and have never been disappointed being paid.
More on this cash thing later. .
In the case of an overseas Ebay buyer don't walk away from a sale, but trust no one but your Mother. I prepare those package to the destinee's address using the USPO cheapest insured air service. I advise the buyer the total cost and request US$ cash by mail. Upon receipt of the cash I launch the package.
Now about "cash", the problem is the slime ball banking system. They will rake off anything and everything they can from international payments to your detriment leaving you with much less than you originally envisioned.
Get cash in advance, all the deadbeats disappear and the real buyers will comply.
Ron the Coilman


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mack Jeffrey Cole on Monday, May 07, 2007 - 08:44 pm:

Well I sent him a message a while ago letting him know that his shipping "company" number didnt look legit to me.I told him to send his address over there in sweden and I would go by the postoffice with the package, and see what I needed to do and get a price.Once I send that info he can send the money,once I get that,off the parts go.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Ron Patterson on Monday, May 07, 2007 - 08:58 pm:

Mack
The "golden rule" works every time, them that have the "gold rule".
Ron the Coilman


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mack Jeffrey Cole on Monday, May 07, 2007 - 09:16 pm:

Well he must be legit.He sent his address and said he would be happy to do it that way.So,I reckon I was skeered for nothing.But with all the scams and such,it is hard to not be.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By andy samuelson on Monday, May 07, 2007 - 09:26 pm:

Mack, Do you accept paypal payments ?? That is the best way to get paid from overseas. We sell all over and with paypal there is no banking fees for exchanging the money. The paperwork is no big deal, the PO will explain it all to you.
Just be sure and double box the heavy stuff and use the reinforced tape, colored duct tape works but not the silver stuff, messes up the scanners.

Good luck Andy
t24man@yahoo.com if you need help


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mack Jeffrey Cole on Monday, May 07, 2007 - 09:48 pm:

thanks


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mark C on Tuesday, May 08, 2007 - 01:34 am:

I'm from Australia and use ebay on accasion to buy T parts I don't think it's fair that we overseas bidders have to be disadvantaged due to the fact there is a greater supply of parts in the US and that certain sellers don't want to deal with us for whatever reason. The only time I have had an issue with being ripped off was when I bid on a set of bands from a US seller.I paid the money and had enormous difficulty getting the goods ebay tends to look after the seller more than the buyer from my experience. So it's not always the overseas buyers that are the problem.
Mark


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By R.M.Head on Tuesday, May 08, 2007 - 06:13 am:

I live in Taiwan, am from Canada. Sometimes I check before bidding, sometimers I bid before checking. If I bid and win, and learn the seller will not ship outside the USA or Canada, I ship to an address in the USA or Canada. I pay, promptly, so sellers have been happy to help out - I always invite sellers to check my feedback, and if they need to speak with me, provide a phone number and I'll call them.

There are lots os scams out there - foreign and within NorthAmerica. There are also a lot of genuine hobbyists worldwide. It is a balancing act.

Also, when shipping to Canada, UPS is NOT the way to go, so please indicate if you are only willing to ship UPS - they have borderline criminally ridiculous "brokerage fees".

I have been cheated a couple times on eBay, and because I allowed for extra shipping time, was too late to get any satisfaction from eBay - it is a two edged sword (my losses are so far under 300$ total, but that is enough...).

Learn towards good faith, from a solid footing in caution.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By R.V. Anderson on Tuesday, May 08, 2007 - 07:57 am:

I absolutely agree with you about UPS. Using them to ship outside the US is hugely expensive in time as well as in funds. I only use the USPS for "overseas" or cross-border shipping.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Paul Kullmann on Tuesday, May 08, 2007 - 12:06 pm:

I've sold lots of item on ebay and sent them overseas. so far I've only lost one. I guess the biggest pain about the whole thing is filling out all of the customs forms, but even those you can do online. With the pending changes in USPS comeing may 14th it will be interesting to see what changes they make. I've tried to figure it out but haven't yet.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Gary London on Tuesday, May 08, 2007 - 01:15 pm:

Watch out for Fedex Ground also. Their 'Brokerage Fees' for customs duties are huge, and they come after the seller if the buyer doesn't pay (guess how I know that!) The mail service is better; my understanding is they make the buyer pay any duties charged when the package is delivered so the seller is protected. Often times a buyer expects the seller to lie on the customs form to save the duties; to me that's not reasonable.

Shipping internationally does have some risks. One person in Australia bought an item that was too long for me to ship USPS, and I'm not equiped to deal with freight companies. It's good to weigh and measure an item and make sure you can mail it before offering to ship international. I don't sell anything overseas or to Canada that can't go through the Post Office unless the person has a USA address.

Remember, often you cannot track of insure internationally but the buyer still expects the seller to be responsible. I recently mailed a brochure for a 1926 Packard to New Zeland. It was shipped Global Priority Mail; it took over 1 month to arrive, even though I paid the premium and it should have been there within a few days. Neither Insurance or tracking was available (I could prove I mailed it with my receipt). If it went Global Express it could have been partially tracked, but even then all they can do is send a request for information to ther destination country. That's a very expensive way to go for little extra benefit.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mack Jeffrey Cole on Wednesday, May 09, 2007 - 12:29 pm:

Well he must be legit,the funds were payed with paypal and they are headed to my checking account.
I am glad to as i was concerned,very concerned about fraud.
It is hard to break old habits.You hear all the bad about stuff in nigeria and so forth,but seldom are reminded that good people are all over just well hid.


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