Hi everybody, before I ask what may be a couple of goofy questions, I want to thank some of you helpful folks, and add a hats off to all you forum folks. I have never seen such a pitch-in and help forum before. Thanks!
Now, I'm drawing up (in CAD) blueprints of a 1915
touring. I have spent months now doing a lot of research (with emphasis on search) for dimensions on parts. So please bear with me as a "non-model t owner".
Cn anyone confirm what I understand is the correct differential housing diameter--by part listings numbers state 9 and one quarter inches as the diameter (for the "bell").
would this include the the aditional size added to the case, caused by the seven bolts which hold the halves together?
My first thought would be yes, as if the diameter is usual the total oustide width of something.
My other sore spot, is the "brass style" radiator
and is a component I have found nothing dimension wise about. One more question regarding this is:
what is the width and height looking straight at the car, from frame to first angle, then across flat top.
Also (I'm probably pushing this too far) the side width of the shell looking at the car from the side.
I would be extremely greatful for any "two cents"
that can be offered.
Thanks a whole lot, and though I don't personally own one of these historical masterpeices, my heart is with all you who do!
Chuckster.
Chuck,
I don't know where you live but I suspect there is a 1915 - 16 Model T parked in a garage within 20 miles of you. If you put some sort of address information on here maybe we can direct you to a nearby club so that you can go make some measurements.
Royce
I'm curious...Why?
I use AutoCAD and to draw up something as complicated as (what sounds like anyway) a complete T, there better be a real good reason for me to tie up that many hours. What I mean is, I don't use it for the fun of it!
I know it's none of my business, but just wondering (respectfully, of course) what would possess a non-T owner to tackle such a time-consuming task.
Royce -- His profile says he's in Lansing, MI.
AHA! a spy for REO in a time warp...
Can't everyone see what he's up to? With a Model T done in a solid modeling program in CAD, all he has to do is get a very large stereolithography machine (http://computer.howstuffworks.com/stereolith.htm) and he'll be cranking out copies of our cars by the thousands! Other than the fact that they'll be plastic, they'll be impossible to tell from our original cars!
Just curious which cad program you are using?
About year or so ago, I attempted to make some wood drawings on Pro/E, but decided it probably wasn't worth the effort and instead decided to dedicate my CAD time to actual assignments for class.
Wow, guess I got a heck of a responce from that one!
Oh and by the way, not a spy for REO, they lack the how should I put it--class of a T.
Anyway, I'm doing a set of prints in CAD not just for the fun of it, but want to eventually build a scale model of a touring, the 1915 in particular
because, well don't laugh but my inspiration is the T that Fred Mac Murray drives in Disney's absent minded proffesor. The software I'm using for you CAD buffs out there is "Design cad pro 2000" something of an Autocad clone, cheaper but easy to use for us math retards.
I've collected quite a bit of info, in fact from the four months of research I have done, engines and bodys are somewhat identifiable to me, and the MTFCA encyclopedia, and parts distributor catalogs have helped imensly. Information I get is then checked by this forum which is may I say a rich source!
Basic dimensions I've gotten from local librarys like "the Ford Model T owner" and others.
On the net there are other sources for mechanical info such as--now get this--the Model T club website from Argentina! They have posted repair manuals in there entirety, owners manuals, and a wealth of other stuff.
I don't speak the language, but I suggest you folks check them out.
Any how, I can't visit the Henry Ford Research Facility, even though I'm only about fifty miles from there, their hours make it impossible (sigh).
And lastly, if I get that far and begin working on a model, it will not be for profit or mass production--only for my own enjoyment.
Well, I had better stop before I fill this thread with too much yacking.
And hey to all of you folks, thanks for the interest and any help you may offer, your a great bunch!!!
Chuck
I see...if you get a full-scale 1915 T I bet your enjoyment would increase exponentially! hehe
By the way, I loved that car in that movie. I fell in love with the TT in 'The Green Mile" too!
Good luck with your project, Chuck!
I have a 1915 T Touring sitting in my garage waiting for Spring. If your are in the Superior WI area you can stop in and take all the measurements that you need. I agree with Ray a full-Scale 1915 T just can't be beat for summer fun.
Hello again, I just thought I would post a couple diagrams to show the measurements I need.
Diferential: "a" or "B"
Radiator: "A", "B", "C", "D".
Hope someone has an idea, I'm against a wall at the moment.
Thanks!
Chuck
Chuck -- Here are the dimensions you asked for:
Radiator -- A = 5" B = 19-3/4" C = 4" D = 13"
Rear end -- B = 8-5/8", and the bolt bosses protrude 5/8". I don't know where the 9-1/4" number comes from.
My guess is that 9.25" is the bolt circle since the bolts would be in the center of the protruding bosses.
Seth
I agree, get a 1:1 scale '15! I have one--actually it's a '16 made in Dec '15.
BTW, the movie's car used to be in Grass Valley, near me, don't know where it is right now, but I oould find out with a little research.
Terry H. should know where it is.
T'
David D.
PS I wonder if the movie also influenced me??? Hmmm. . . .
First, I'd like to bow my head in a moment of thanks . . .
You guys are great, thanks a lot.
I realize a lot of info out there is at best, "iffy" especially with "replacement part distributors" whose components may be may via modern methods and not necesarilly adhere to origional dimensions and specs. I'm not interested in "exacts" but so far all listing of part numbers and factory numbers show the same dimensions for the rear axle housing.
Part number 2501E, and 2502E, or fact# 2835C, and 2836C.
Below, is where I found the nine and one-quarter
inch--as shown in page 6_1 of a 1915 parts book.
Image file courtesy of the Model T club of Argentina website . . . Ole!
Note below the part numbers I mentioned.
And once more thanks guys!
Chuckster
Charles or Chuckster, Can you share the MTFCA (Model T Ford Club of Argentina) website? All I found was an e-mail address. Since my kids both learned significant amounts of Spanish, I'd like to see what those south of us are doing. Thanks.
Sure, I origionally found it on the "links" page
at the website for model t owners in great britain.
Below I've pasted the address.
Trust me there is a ton of info here--specially visual. Owner manuals (entire scanned pages) and
lubrication manuals etc.
They are worth a visit.
chuckster
P.S. chuck, charles, or chuckster is fine.
http://www.fordt.org.ar/
Gracias Chuck!