I need a picture to see how the firewall,cowl, and wood come togeather on a 24 touring. this thing is kicking my @$$ ! I have made up the dash pillars, panel pillars and the curved rail top. I have the dash and cowl in place but cannot figure out how it all ties togeather. there are steel brackets with holes in them hanging off the cowl, and it looks like they should screw to the wood some how. any help here would be great. this has been keeping me at bay for a year!!
Post your location and perhaps someone is close to you.
1. Highly recommend find some local folks with a similar car. The touring and roadster front sheet metal, wood, and steel brackets are the same for a given model year (pre 1922 there were several manufactures and they sometimes did things differently but with the high cowl roadster and touring – Ford USA produced them. Canadian cars – have some differences from USA ones.
2. The high hood cars that were introduced around Jun 1923 (ref page 308 of Bruce McCalley’s book “The Model T Ford”) were referred to a 1924 models. Depending on what state they were sold in, they might have been licensed as a 1923 or a 1924, but for ordering parts from the Ford dealer they were called 1924 models.
3. Do you know for sure what year you body is? The reason I ask, the 1924 model has a lot more wood in it than the 1925 model that looks very very similar to the 1924 model. From 20 feet away, I don’t think many people could tell which was a 1924 and which was a 1925 model. So if you have a 1924 wood kit – such as one of Cubel’s shown at: http://www.fordwood.com/images/tour23new.jpg it would not necessarily work without some modification on the 1925 touring. (I think you would wind up with extra wood not needed and modifying the wood that was used to fit with the metal braces etc. of the 1925 – but that is just a guess on my part). And if you had someone else’s wood kit that was designed for a 1925 touring – it would be short some wood that a 1924 model needed.
4. Some additional information for the Roadster 23-25 (and the front is the same as the touring)
http://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/29/31820.html that one has lots and lots of great info and photos – and highlights the need to be sure you have all the parts for the same type of cowl (high or low) and not a mixed set of panels and parts.
http://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/29/37068.html This link shows a lot of the differences in the 1925 body – with more metal and less wood used. It also has a different type of hinge on the door. Which if you have a body that is already in parts might be helpful in figuring out what you have.
General good info on body wood
See also the MTFCI tech section and click on the wood replacement links at: http://www.model-t-ford.org/tech_corner.htm
5. If you can find someone with a similar car to yours – it can really make things a lot easier for you.
6. Caution some folks may have mixed and match parts in the past and when you try to work on it – it doesn’t match up with what you read because Ford never made it that way. For example a 1921-25 touring rear seat section can be mated to the 1915-20 front seat section. It fits and even looks like it was made to fit. But the seams etc. are different (see Bruce McCalley’s book, “The Model T Ford” page 317).
7. If you are anyone else would like a copy of RV Anderson’s “Rewooding a 1923 low cowl roadster” article from the Nov-Dec 1987 “Vintage Ford” please send me your e-mail address. You can click on my name and send it via a private message or if you look in my profile my e-mail address is there also. We have permission from Jay Klehfoth the editor of the Vintage Ford to share articles such as that for non-commercial use. It helps promote the club and to get more Ts back on the road. Thank you RV for taking the time to put that article together – it helps answer a lot of questions for folks. And your continuing work with early coil boxes, coils etc. is a great help also.
8. This was modified just a little from a previous posting I shared with a John who was working on a high cowl 1923. Is that you and your car or a different John? As Jack shared above -- post your location or check out the local clubs at: http://mtfca.com/MTclubs.htm and http://mtfca.com/clubpages/chapters.htm
Hap Tucker 1915 Model T Ford touring cut off and made into a pickup truck and 1907 Model S Runabout. Sumter SC
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