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Model T Ford Forum: Forum 2005: Ford never offered that in 1919 … or why we should Never say Never…
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Hap Tucker on Sunday, February 24, 2008 - 04:25 pm:

While looking for some information on when starters were offered for the open cars (see: http://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/29/48916.html?1203881938 for that information) I ran across the following note in Bruce’s on line encyclopedia at http://mtfca.com/encyclo/doc19.htm (also in his book and Comprehensive Model T Encyclopedia)

JAN 1, 1919 Acc. 575, #331, Ford Archives
Experimental Holley vapor manifold noted. 25 were purchased for trials.

Now we don’t know if they were mounted on cars that were initially or even eventually sold to the public or just used by some test folks at the Ford Factory. But you never know when a small production run with certain odd-ball parts may have been offered.

In Dec (the 1920 model year):

DEC 17 Acc. 575, Box 12, #776, Ford Archives
T-826E transmission cover. Holes for mounting Bendix cover rotated 30 degrees for ease in assembly. (On April 6, 1920, the holes were changed back to the original position.)

That one would have been for just over 3 months but still a small number compared to the many transmission covers yet to come. And of course there are other items that are no longer recorded in the archives because they have been lost (the fire, misfiled, never originally filed, etc.).

So please keep a look out for evidence of additional information. You may find something new in the archives (they found some NRS parts drawings filed with the early Ford V8 drawings a few years ago), in Bruce’s books and CDs (hey it has been there since 1994, but I just noticed it today), in early photographs (watch out for those photo-shop copies), early articles, and the fossil record – those parts on the cars. Remember John Regan’s comments about folks replacing the “pointy leaf 1916 springs” with earlier taper leaf springs because the thought the “pointy style” were after market springs. The Ford scrip found on one of the leaves resulted in an archives search that also found some documentation in the archives about them. But the fossil record had already been there – it was just discounted. And yes, we all know that parts often were changed and we have often changed out parts on our cars, but don’t just assume it is wrong—take some pictures, ask some questions, etc.

Respectfully submitted,

Hap Tucker 1915 Model T Ford touring cut off and made into a pickup truck and 1907 Model S Runabout. Sumter SC.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By jack daron-Indy. on Sunday, February 24, 2008 - 05:11 pm:

Along about that same time they used a two-light headlamp also. Only for about 6 months ,then discontinued it. My son has one.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Vic Patterson on Sunday, February 24, 2008 - 08:19 pm:

My February 1920 Canadian Touring has the twin lamp reflectors.
Vic.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By John Sizemore on Monday, February 25, 2008 - 09:06 am:

Vic can you post a picture.
Thanks
JS


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Vic Patterson on Monday, February 25, 2008 - 09:52 pm:

These are the two lamp reflectors, also another unusual feature is the rectangular generator cut-out that was mounted on the wooden firewall.

image/jpgTwo lamp reflectors and rectangular cut-out
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