1926 model t coupe - front end wobbles and shakes

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Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Smokey_Truck on Sunday, March 02, 2008 - 06:31 pm:

Hello everyone

I got a Model T recently and front end wobbles as if some wheels are out of wack or something is bend and at some speed or in some gears it goes fine, I dont know where the problem is. I shipped it from Oregan to VA and in the shipping they winched to move up and down and I dont if it damaged any front end.

Any information on this is appreciated

Ganesh


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Tom Stanzione on Sunday, March 02, 2008 - 07:18 pm:

HI Smokey,

Welcome to the Model T application.

What you are experiencing is very characteristic of T's. You will need to go through the front end and make sure all the connections are tight and the bushings are in good shape.

Jack up one wheel and then grab the tire at the outer edges and try to move it back and forth. If it has play you need to observe to see if the wheel bearing feels loose, check to see if there is movement in the spindle bolt and bushing and also if the tie rod bolts are tight and have no play in the bushings, also check the shackles and bushings for play.

While under there make sure the wishbone nuts are tight where it mounts to the axle and that the wishbone ball is securely seated in the engine pan mount.

Once done on one side check all the same things on the other side.

If the wheel bearings feel loose, remove the hubcap, cotter pin and wheel nut and adjust the threaded outer bearing to the proper loading then reinstall in the reverse order.

On the spindle bolts and tie rod bolts you will need to remove the cotter pins and loosen the nuts then make sure the bolts are pulled down very tight and then reinstall the nuts and cotter pins as well.

The shackle bushings have no adjustment, if they appear to have play, you will need to remove and replace them.

Bottom line is that everything in the front end has to be good and tight and the bearings adjusted properly to stop the shimmy and shake. A little tightening will make a big difference


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Tom Stanzione on Sunday, March 02, 2008 - 07:19 pm:

Meant to say Welcome to the Model T AFFLICTION......


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Seth Harbuck on Sunday, March 02, 2008 - 07:29 pm:

Ganesh,

If you do adjust the wheel bearings, note that the threads are right hand on the left side of the car and left hand on the right side of the car.

Toe-in of the front wheels is also critical to prevent shimmy - it needs to be around 1/4".

Tom is right on the money, especially with his "bottom line".

Good luck with it and keep us posted with your progress.

Seth


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Smokey_Truck on Sunday, March 02, 2008 - 07:39 pm:

Awesome Forum and you guys are amazing, I will try those advise and keep this thread posted guys

Ganesh


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dennis Halpin on Sunday, March 02, 2008 - 08:17 pm:

Smokey, the front end is probably shot. You'll notice that it has little oil cups rather than grease fittings. It required virtually constant lubrication and if it didn't get it,(which is usually the case) it wore out quickly.
Jack the car up with the wheels off the ground and lubricate every moving part, check the wheels for play as described above.
Then put it on the road and try to drive it. Once you lubricate it, (if it is shot), the problem will get significantly worse.
Then, you have ONE option, overhaul the front axle and steering.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jim Patrick - (2) '26's - Bartow, FL on Sunday, March 02, 2008 - 09:30 pm:

Here are a couple of past threads that might help:

www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/29/7105.html
www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/29/31353.html

Jim


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