By David Chantrell - Adelaide, Australia on Wednesday, December 12, 2012 - 04:58 am:
From my "C1270 1913" thread we had a some interesting information posted by our NZ cousins. I was talking to Ray Green and we discussed if this could be used to track shipments of 1913 cars from Canada via engine number batches. I have started to list these engine numbers from what we know where the motors (originals only, not restamps or anything in doubt) were found. You need to add what you guys know you have and perhaps this might lead us to some new information. Let's give this forum a whirl at full throttle and see where it goes!
C320, C340, C1177, C1234, C1239, C2302, C3016.
C323, C325, C1202, C1270, C5082.
C5275 By David Chantrell - Adelaide, Australia on Friday, December 14, 2012 - 04:59 am:
The calendar year of 1913 according to my books ends around C8000, or there about. I have removed any later numbers for the other pages.
C227, C320, C340, C1177, C1234, C1239, C2302, C3016, C4312, C4391, C4474, C5274, C5310, C5314, C5347, C6269, C6448, C6449.
C323, C325, C995, C1129, C1202, C1270, C3650, C3780, C3838, C4610, C5082, C5685, C6064.
C4711, C5275, C5736, C6401.
C410, C1651, C2954, C3650, C4589, C5160, C6504.
C1907, C3249, C5741, C6479.
Hi David, I am onto that other 1913 that we spoke about and had a reply and we know were it is but have not contacted the owner yet.
I have been chasing up that block C325 and its just gone to ground but I will find it also have found a block with a casting date of 7-11-13 but it has a high 700 number so will post it later... Ray
Ray, David, and others,
I think this as well as many of the other "Wanted: Colonial Canadian 19xx 'C' Engine Numbers - tracking shipments by country & state" are a great idea. Hopefully as additional information is gathered it will give us more insight into what occurred.
I would also suggest adding the body maker and body number if that is also known as well as the type of body (especially for the 1912 cars that had the 1911 body, 1912 smooth side with and without outside door handles etc.).
For those looking at this in the future the original thread was on last year's forum at: http://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/257047/327369.html?1355835161 with the same title: Wanted: Colonial Canadian 1913 'C' Engine Numbers - tracking shipments by country & state You do not have to read that one -- as David did a great summary that Ray "re-posted” but it provides some additional background for this thread.
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Hi Hap, I still have around one hundred numbers for the other years up to 1919 that I have not even added yet as I want other to do some work instead of sitting there and just looking, I think those that are doing their bit should be commended but the others need to start NOW and help. Ray
Don't forget a lot of folks may have the same problem I do. I believe God put me here on this earth for a reason. But right now I'm so far behind I'll never die! Ok -- I know it doesn't really work that way -- but most of us are not bored. And a lot of folks are not nearly as interested in the data-collection and data-comparison that some of us are interested in. I don't think it is a right or wrong but rather a preference. The research gathering part tends to be a much smaller sub-set of our hobby than the touring or repairing the cars etc. It is that way with the Horseless Carriage Club of America and the Model A Ford Club of America (also the Model A Onwers Club of Canada). They all have an independent research arm that includes a much smaller sub-set of the larger club [see: http://www.maffi.org/index.htm or http://www.cmaff.com/ or http://www.hcfi.org/ etc.] I still think there is some usefulness for a group of us 1903-1927 Ford Folks to consider a similar group. But for me, that is still down the road a little bit longer.
Bruce McCalley (RIP) compiled several pages of the serial numbers and casting dates on the Canadian cars but by country and not by smaller areas. Would any of that information help with this effort? If so I can try to look through it.
I'm very interested in the success of this project but I have not had the time to do much towards it myself. But I think if we keep gathering the data, we will get there. Probably not tomorrow -- but over the next few months and/or years. And of course we will always be discovering additional information both written and fossil. The early two-lever #489 in France was unknown to many of us until the recent posting see: http://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/257047/322425.html?1353120456
I look forward to supporting David, you and others as we all work together to increase the data and discover more about what it means.
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