Bands ?

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Model T Ford Forum: Forum 2013: Bands ?
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By ken bechtel on Wednesday, January 09, 2013 - 09:07 pm:

I'm ready to install my band linings but would like to check the bands for roundness.Any tips for checking them ? thanks. Ken


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Ted Dumas on Wednesday, January 09, 2013 - 09:18 pm:

I do it by eye. I suppose one could be more scientific. When I install them thru the hogshead door they get a little misshapen. I don't worry about it and my kevlar bands have not produced any cracked drums.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dan Treace, North FL on Wednesday, January 09, 2013 - 09:27 pm:

Use an old drum to do it, with a mallet going around til the bands are round again, and then check the distance between the ears.....that will set 'em good to go.







Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By ken bechtel on Wednesday, January 09, 2013 - 09:45 pm:

Thanks for the help. Ken


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By John Manuel, Lafayette, La. on Friday, January 11, 2013 - 03:43 pm:

Dan--where did that article come from? I'd like to read more of it.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By John Manuel, Lafayette, La. on Sunday, January 13, 2013 - 08:40 am:

bump


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Norman Miller on Sunday, January 13, 2013 - 09:10 am:

What is bump?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By George_Cherry Hill NJ on Sunday, January 13, 2013 - 09:15 am:

Bump is bringing a request back up to the top of the list before it gets lost in the rest.

I'm not smart enough to have a spare drum/mandrel...I cheat...when I bought a bunch of woods, I bought them pre-mounted by Jim Guinn. When rebending another band strap, I just reach in the box and use one of Jims as a visual guide :-):-) Works every time


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By john kuehn on Sunday, January 13, 2013 - 09:31 am:

Thanks Dan for the information.
Did that come from a Ford service bulletin?
Since having an interest in T's I just always assumed it would seem best to keep the bands as round as possible when reinstalling them.
Thanks again for having a treasure trove of service literature to keep us informed!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dick Lodge - St Louis MO on Sunday, January 13, 2013 - 10:23 am:

George, if you bump a message back to the top very quickly, is that a speed bump? :-)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dan Treace, North FL on Sunday, January 13, 2013 - 11:07 am:

The info is from early issue of FordOwner, most likely by Murray Fahnestock, although the section "What's Wrong" in that issue has no author's name, but Mr. Fahnestock is the well known 'expert' on things Model T with those magazines, he wrote many articles and always answered letters from readers on Model T quirks!

August 1915 FordOwner, page 55:


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By John Manuel, Lafayette, La. on Sunday, January 13, 2013 - 01:46 pm:

Thanks ,Dan , for posting the whole thing. I'm having that same problem so this morning I took off the inspection cover. Someone in the past installed a metal filter and a magnet under the cover and in the filter (basically a piece of perforated metal) was a rivet which I assume came loose from a band. I could see no major scoring on the drum so I cleaned the filter and changed the oil. Then with the back end on stands I put it in reverse with no noticeable jerking but it may act differently with the wheels on the ground. However, reverse seemed noisier than low. We've had huge amounts of rain lately and I fear getting stuck if I back out into the yard so I'll have to wait a week or two before I can actually drive it. Any thoughts or suggestions?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dan Treace, North FL on Sunday, January 13, 2013 - 03:04 pm:

John

Think your T will be OK, since no jerking now, don't expect it.

As far a noise, reverse is always louder in operation, due to the gear reduction, as the engine turns 4 times the revs as in high, with the planetary gears going backward.

One gone rivet shouldn't cause the lining to go, unless its one that is at the end of the band, usually in the 'ear' hole. That could allow the lining to start to tuck under the band, letting the band lift and preventing full circular contact, but you can see that on inspection.


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