Replacing a 24 Model T starter and questions

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Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Oliver K. Palanjian, Jr on Sunday, April 28, 2013 - 10:51 am:

I am the new owner of my Dad's 24 Model T, and in trying to get it started, the starter was acting up and it looks like I finally cooked it and it just now spins and the bendix won't engage the flying.

Are these just like any other automotive (for the most part) starters? Remove and replace? And where is the best place for me to go to buy one?

My dad had a new engine completely rebuilt, runs great when it does, but it has been sitting for about 10 months. Anyone interested in buying this great car? Any suggested forums or web sites for listing it was a decent and fair return, or best return for all his efforts. This is a one in a kind original restores 1924 T. Would be happy to send tons of photos, including the rebuild.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Oliver K. Palanjian, Jr on Sunday, April 28, 2013 - 10:52 am:

I also have all the pictures OF the engine rebuild,the receipt associated with the rebuild and the man that did it can be contacted for more information and to document his work.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Tim Wrenn on Sunday, April 28, 2013 - 10:56 am:

Mac's or Snyders should be able to supply you with what you need.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By John Zibell on Sunday, April 28, 2013 - 11:03 am:

Oliver,

If the starter motor spins, it sounds like a Bendix failure. Bendix parts are available. The Bendix can be replaced without removing the starter from the Bendix cover side. Be careful not to drop any parts into the transmission.

If you do want to remove the starter motor, be sure to remove the Bendix first. If you do not remove the Bendix, the magneto coil ring will be damaged.

As for selling the car, the classifieds here or e-bay are common sale sites.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Steve Jelf, Parkerfield KS on Sunday, April 28, 2013 - 11:06 am:

NO!!! You don't just unbolt the starter and pull it off. That can cause expensive damage. The bendix has to be removed from the other side of the flywheel first.

You can get a rebuilt starter from Lang's or one of the other parts dealers, or you can have yours rebuilt by Ron Patterson or one of the other folks listed on the services page of this website. BUT from your description it sounds like your problem may be just the bendix, not the starter.

You can advertise the car in the classified ads on this website and also on the MTFCI site. Ads in The Vintage Ford and Model T Times are also good. I'd also post a bunch of those pictures here. There's also ebay, and Craig's list.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Andre Valkenaers on Sunday, April 28, 2013 - 11:08 am:

Oliver,

Don't take the starter out of the car jet. Just take of the bendix cover and watch . I think you have just a broken spring.
To take the starter out You NEED to first take out the bendix or you will damage the bendix.

Good luck
Andre
Belgium


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Andre Valkenaers on Sunday, April 28, 2013 - 11:12 am:

Sorry, You will damage the magneto coil ring.

Andre
belgium


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Norman T. Kling on Sunday, April 28, 2013 - 11:38 am:

To remove the bendix cover, first remove the floorboards. Then the bendix cover. You will need a long screwdriver to get the screw which is on the right side behind the pedals. Do not lose those 4 screws because the thread is an unusual size which is hard to find.

After you remove the bendix cover you will find the bendix which is composed of a gear a spring and another part called the drive head which bolts to the shaft. It is quite easily removed. The screw through the drive head toward the end of the starter shaft is removed and the whole unit can be pulled out. There is a tab on that screw which must be bent to remove it and later when you replace the bendix, that tab should also be replaced. There is a woodruff key inside that drive head which goes into the shaft. Don't lose that key. I have attached a picture of the complete bendix. The usual problems with the bendix would be either of the two bolts broken or missing or the spring broken. Study the picture and be sure you have all the parts and none have fallen down into the transmission. If you have all the parts, replace those which are broken and replace it on the shaft. Order two new lock washers with the tabs and a new gasket for the bendix cover.

When you replace the bendix cover put gasket sealer on the gasket and start the screw which is behind the pedals being careful not to drop the screw into the transmission. Then put the cover on and slide it under the screw. The other screws can now be installed. Tighten well.
Norm


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By David Lee Ward on Monday, September 23, 2013 - 12:16 pm:

I have a '26 coupe that has been converted to 12 volts and has a distributor and the mag coils have been removed to cut down on weight. this was done by the previous owner. I need to remove the starter to work on it. every thing i have read says I need to remove the bendix prior to removing the starter.
i have removed the 2 bolts holding the bendix spring on but the "drive head" will not slide off.
Do I really need to remove the bendix on this car since it has no mag coils? I tried to put a gear puller on the drive head but there just isn't enough room with my puller.


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