No affiliation with the sale, but I check out eBay all the time for Model T's that might be for sale.
This one is super cool because I've never seen one where the front seat folds down and combines with the back seat to make a bed. With all the nifty parts on it and the shape the car is in, I'm sure it'll go for a small fortune.
Does anybody need anything done? I'll change clinchers with my bare hands, polish all your brass, whatever, I just need some more $$$ for the crazy hobby!
Really nice car.
Wow, nice car. Seth, if you buy it, I'll store it in Nebraska for you . That would get it half way home.
Very nice. Hap, if you see this, what are your thoughts (or anyone else) about the body/seat back construction?
Thanks for posting,
LOL Rob, IF I could buy it I'd be glad to let you store it for me for a while.
Yes, I second that, Hap, your take on the interior would be neat to hear.
The car has a LOT of upgrades. Personally, I'd go through the whole thing front to back and verify it's all ok and good to go, but then leave it exactly like it is and just drive the stew out of it.
I knew the car when it was in Medford, Oregon. Ken used to take it in the winter and tour around south eastern California and Nevada.
he put a few miles on it that way.
Unfortunately I could't afford it when it came for sale when Ken died.
Fantastic car. About the only thing I would change are the front shocks - for safety. Looks like it already has wheel brakes.
Welcome to the Forum, Dale. We have family in Medford. Please add pix to your profile, and tell us about your '09.
Congratulations to the seller on his competent posting. Lots of good pictures, well lit and in focus, from many angles, both wide view and close-up. Even if some of the pictures are redundant, that's much better than not having enough. The written description is also detailed and well-written. Anybody contemplating selling a car should see this ad and emulate it.
As for the car itself, it's lovely. I sure wouldn't turn it down. The only thing I don't like about it is the tacky plastic-insulated wire for the brake light, an easily corrected minor detail. Too bad I don't have the time, the dough, and the space for another one.
Geeze. I've never seen a more desirable Model T. How I hate not being filthy, stinking rich!
Ditto what Bob said!
Is anyone familiar with the Universal Transmission? Overdrive/ Under drive?
With all due respect to Ambulance Chasers--This is the kind of photo documentation that needs to go in Vintage Ford.
What a neat Car!
I live in the Medford area. It is amazing what turns up here. Two Carter Cars down the street. 100% original right down to the pinstriping on the leaf springs. Got a call for help yesterday on a '21 Mitchell generator.
I'm sure most areas are the same, the cars are just hidden.
Dale, we are gonna park some T's in J'ville for Britt's opening, Want to come?
I am familiar with this car and it is very nice.
And the sleeper makes it fun and unique. Mostly correct and tour ready.
Any idea of a predicted value?
This car has been discussed on this forum before. I am not sure, but I think the then owner of it commented about it at that time. I don't know if it is the same owner now or not.
I heavily second Ralph's comment about the front shocks. I looked at a couple sets of that type many years ago and decided that I would never use a set of those. They weaken the front end geometry quite a bit because of how high the shackles hang from above. That will result in less stability on an already weak front end. Under certain conditions, they can result in a very dangerous instability at a very bad time. They were not cited in the final report as I read it, but I still suspect a set similar to those contributed to Ken Meek's death.
EVERYTHING else I see in the photos of that car, I like. I, too, wish I had the money for it.
Michael P, et al,
Universal built a variety of auxiliary transmissions of that basic design for both T cars and TT trucks. They came in direct and under only, direct and over only, as well as under/direct/over progressive shifts sometimes referred to as "UDOs". That one appears to be a UDO based on the shape of the main housing which dips down slightly in the middle. The D/O and D/U use a different center housing. I think that it is the same housing for both the D/U and D/O.
I had a TT D/O in my TT years ago, and a UDO in my first boat-tail. Both shifted very easily, and worked very well. The UDO had a very high overdrive and really needed the ten-tooth pinion it had. With the ten-tooth pinion in overdrive, the final ratio was about 2.4 to one. In my opinion, the Universal transmissions are among the best for any T.
Drive carefully, and enjoy, W2
Hey Jason and anyone else interested - eBay bidding went up to $33,605.00 but the car was not sold as it did not meet the reserve.
That seems about right to me, I kind of thought it'd get slightly up over $30K. However, it seems really silly to me that the reserve was even higher than that. They're going to have a tough time selling that car if the seller didn't think anything over $30K was gravy.
I thought I saw evidence of this car being shopped previously for about 50K not to long ago.
Value is determined by different factors, of which time is only one, albeit an important one. It's fair to state that a car exposed to literally tens of millions of people and bid up to $33,605 is worth exactly that amount. But if the seller is willing to wait, the car may be "worth" more. Some people sell their car for whatever the market establishes, others have plenty of time and wait until a perfect constellation arises. I belong to the former group, but I watched sellers on eBay who listed the same car over and over and over and over again, waiting for that one guy who is ready to step up to the plate. There's no right or wrong; it's just a different approach.