Cheap performance intake question. Speedster intake option.

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Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Nathan Bright on Saturday, May 11, 2013 - 12:39 am:

Hello all,

It is commonly known that stock T intakes are very restrictive. My question is, is using just the intake portion of a 26/27 vaporizer a better option? I realize I will have to rig up a linkage as well as tilt the inlet 30%ish so it is level. I guess i am simply asking is a vaporizer intake better than stock.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Nathan Bright on Saturday, May 11, 2013 - 12:42 am:

I am speaking of this intake just for reference. I am NOT plugging langs btw.

http://www.modeltford.com/item/6251.aspx


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Nathan Bright on Saturday, May 11, 2013 - 01:06 am:

umm... actually just found this http://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/118802/173487.html?1291575711


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By mike_black on Saturday, May 11, 2013 - 07:32 am:

Nathan,
Remember--what goes in has to come out! I feel the Vaporizer exhaust matches the intake and will enhance the "breathing" process. Here's a pic of my speedster that has the vaporizer set-up, although it's been adapted to a downdraft carb.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Terry Woods, Katy, Texas on Saturday, May 11, 2013 - 09:11 am:

Why fool around with parts that need modification? An aluminum intake or a 1924 iron intake or a Model a intake/exhaust conversion is a lot easier and won't break the bank.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Roger Karlsson, southern Sweden on Sunday, May 12, 2013 - 06:47 pm:

In Snyder's catalog they sell a $250 kit to install a model A intake/exhaust on a T, so perhaps it isn't such a cheap & easy conversion?

I've also got the intake part from a vaporizer & thinks about using it for a side draft carburator - got a 1930's SU carb from a Morris that fits almost right there without any adaptor.

Jury rigged the intake in a couple of ways today when I was working on the engine:

engine 1
Here it is upside down with an ordinary exhaust manifold - the vaporizer exhaust seems a bit restrictive.

Here's with the Morris 1 1/16" diameter SU carb:

motor 2

And finally here's with headers from Red's headers in California ($195):

engine 3

The vaporizer intake can't seal with the ordinary Ford seals with the headers - got to make some short adaptors. I think I'll make my own twin sidedraft intake instead when I try the headers.

Here's Kent Sumner's homemade intake with dual Holley NH carbs:

dual NH


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Terry Woods, Katy, Texas on Sunday, May 12, 2013 - 11:25 pm:

Karl, you don't have to buy the complete kit from Snyder's to do the conversion. Stateside, if you look for them or go to swapmeets, used Model A intake and exhaust manifolds are not very expensive. Some are dirt cheap, if not give aways. The kit Snyder sells has new reproduction intake and exhaust manifolds, so naturally they aren't give aways. The adaptor plate to match the ports is $63.50 if bought separately. The most expensive thing about the setup is the carburetor, depending on what brand you choose. Also, some, like my self have chosen to substitute a Model B exhaust manifold for the Model A. The B manifold isn't being reproduced and are hard to find. I am currently doing a conversion on a 26 Fordor, using a Simmons head, A Stipe .280 cam, B manifolds with Stan Howe Stromberg OE-! carb. If it doesn't run like a scalded dog, I'm going to be very disappointed.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Nathan Bright on Monday, May 13, 2013 - 12:40 am:

Its a good thought but i am personally building a header similar to franks #22. thanks for the mock-up pics. I was actually thinking of running it upside down from that your thinking. This would make it above the header and more accessible for adjustments... not to mention.. im using a brass carb and it will be purdy.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Anthony Bennett on Monday, May 13, 2013 - 07:02 am:

Nathan I've seen a vaporiser exhaust used as a fairly effective header by plugging the back ald braze wending a large pipe into the middle as the exit point...

Roger you have to keep me in the loop about how that conversion goes... I am going to do that myself... perhaps with an 1 1/8th SU. I reckon it'll be good to start and good everywhere else too;)

Cheers


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