Does anyone have any diagrams for gas headlamp piping for 1911 cars?
I know a 1/4" (OD? what wall thickness?) brass pipe runs along the bottom of the frame on the outside edge from about the area where there is the hole in the splash apron. The pipe runs along the frame bottom to an area below the left front head where the pipe goes into a brass T. One pipe goes straight and bends up toward the headlamp and is connected to the headlamp with the rubber hose. From the T the other pipe goes across, down under the front of the engine to a point on the opposite side of the frame and is soldered onto a brass elbow. Another short piece of brass pipe goes toward the right headlamp, and is again connected with the little red hose.
But... How long is the pipe along the frame?
What is the shape of the pipe (or do we call it tube?) that goes from one side of the frame to the other?
How long are the tubes from the T or elbow?
How long should the rubber hose be from the pipe to the headlamp?
Should there be tiny hose clamps for the rubber tubing?
How many gas lamp tubing clips should there be? Where can I find them?
McMaster-Carr has 1/4" brass tubing in 1', 3', and 6" lengths.
Restoration supply Co has 1/4" brass tubing in 4' and 8' lengths.
And where can I find the T and elbow in brass?
I know I can do the job, I just need some direction and need to know where to find the hardware!
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I'd be keen on this topic as I need to plumb our car too.
Here is an older thread on the subject: http://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/257047/307644.html?1345771412
And here's a discussion on what materials not to use (copper and silver): http://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/29/47200.html?1206033649
Phil Mino's site has lots of pictures of his original car: http://www.fordfarm.net/11Car1.html
I don't think there should be a brass elbow anywhere. There was a tee and three pieces of tubing. You can probably fashion a tee from a piece of brass stock easier than casting one.
Keith, I have the brass T fitting and the tubing clamps. Make sure you get soft or half hard brass tube, you will need to make some bends in it. At far as I know, Phil Mino has the best info on the 1911 tube. PM me if you need the parts. Kim
Could anybody post a better photo of the piece that goes across the chassis please?
Unlike the'09-'10 plumbing, '11-'12 uses an elbow on the right side. Ken Jones has the Ford blueprints and I have seen them.
Here are some pics of my plumbing job. first I had to make the fittings
Then assemble the whole thing.
Thanks to my friends Ward Sherman, Pete Ratledge, Phil Mino and Kim Dobbins!
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Nice job Keith!
Excellent workmanship Keith. I question whether the early headlight tubing may be subject to broad construction variation as the result of multiple 11-12 set-ups I have seen which look like these could be original parts. Adding to the confusion, I have (3) 12 radiators, of which one is a known late 12 original. It has the gas cross-tube soldered to the radiator stiffener plate but no side portals for the hoses. An 11-12 new Brassworks radiator I received has the soldered cross-tube but does not have the side portals. A late 12 Brassworks radiator I have has the cross-tube and the side portals.....all very confusing?