1913 T brake problems

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Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By jeffrey black on Friday, May 17, 2013 - 09:28 pm:

When I apply the brakes on my car, they don't work until you press really hard. When they seem to finally engage they chatter and almost lock up. They had been working fine and just started doing this. What is wrong and how do I fix it?

Jeff Black
Ankeny, Ia


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By David Dare - Just a little South West . on Friday, May 17, 2013 - 10:00 pm:

have you taken the cover off and had a look?, if not, take the camera or phone out so we can get a better idea to assist.
Cheers David.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By R. S. Cruickshank on Saturday, May 18, 2013 - 01:51 am:

Sounds to me that you have band issues. Either the band material is completely worn out or at least some of the material has loosened and maybe flapped over at the ends. David above is correct, you need to open up the trans and have a look. How old/how many miles on the bands?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By David Dare - Just a little South West . on Monday, May 20, 2013 - 03:07 am:

Hey Jeffrey what was the outcome of your problem ??


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By jeffrey black on Wednesday, May 22, 2013 - 12:05 am:

I will take the cover off this weekend and have a closer look. I thought maybe someone had a similar experience and would know what the problem was.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Royce in Dallas TX on Wednesday, May 22, 2013 - 07:44 am:

It sounds like perhaps the band lining has come un - riveted from the band, or the lining is worn through. Either way you should be able to see a problem through the inspection door in the hogshead.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By jeffrey black on Saturday, May 25, 2013 - 12:27 am:

Sounds like no matter what, I need to replace my band. Should I do them all if I am doing the brake band and what bands are the best to use? How long does it take and how hard it it?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By David Dare - Just a little South West . on Saturday, May 25, 2013 - 01:32 am:

two ways to do it.
the easy way or the harder way.
The harder way is faster and requires a little more care.
The easy way has you do a lot more work, but reasonably easy.
The Hard way
-remove the bands out thru the inspection cover - yes it can be done - wiggle one band at a time towards the flywheel and rotate them under and out, re install the same way but in reverse.
The Easy way
Remove both the exhaust and exhaust manifold, remove the trans cover ( hogs head ) and simply remove the bands from there and reinstall the new ones, then clean the edges and apply new gaskets and the hogs head, the exhaust manifold and the exhaust.

David.

PS _ I'd try the hard way first, its quicker, you can always switch to the other way if you cant wiggle them out.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Royce in Dallas TX on Saturday, May 25, 2013 - 10:42 am:

Have you considered removing the six screws from the inspection door and taking a look? Maybe the band is simply too loose? First check the condition by accomplishing a visual inspection.

If the band looks worn out or has come loose, then you need to proceed with band replacement. I would consider doing it through the inspection door if I was on tour and wanted to drive the next day. Since you are at home you would be better off removing the hogshead and doing it the right way as David suggests.

Again, I don't think you can decide what to do until you inspect what is going on first.


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