My daughter in law was on her way in to work at 0515 today in San Antonio, Tx. Minding her own business at SIXTY MPH, she was rear ended by a crotch rocket that spun her car around 4-5 times (didnt roll off the overpass thank GOD!),it all happened "in slow motion" according to her... like a scene from the wizard of Oz, the car was spinning and she saw the biker land from a twenty foot fall in front of her and then bounce another 20 feet in the air before coming to a stop.
Two bikes were racing and the 2nd took off. She's OK but the 2005 Taurus is probably totalled. Look at the rear wheels, one is broken. Maybe she needed an orange triangles and one of those 7 watt 6 volt lights... BTW... the biker lived ... too bad. Thats right, TOO BAD. Any guesses how fast the bikes were going????? troop
...apparently not fast enough....he lived!
Troop if he spun that car around that many times I'd guess a buck twenty
That would be a good guess.. and perhaps a conservative one at that. Sorry about the car. Its fools like that that give bikers a bad name.
Kids on crotch rockets are not "Bikers". They are fools that have bought into self-perceived indestructibility.
well i have seen boys and men on hogs and crotch rockets doing stupid things. i will rephrase my statement "Its fools like that that give persons of generic age and gender whom ride two wheeled vehicles a bad name" better? haha
Rob, I'd agree on the 120 but I'd raise you a ++
I love it when you'r on the freeway doing 70 and you get passed by a Rocket doing a wheelie with a very scared young lady on the back, it happened twice last week in a 2 mile. Some times I wish I was packing.(for the one with the rider only.)
Bob I was going to write the same thing, only there were no young girls on the back but there were two bikes and they were on I5 going north, south of Portland about 4 to 5 years ago.
Saw a crotch rocket yesterday do a 50 mph wheelie in a 30 mph zone and darn, no cops. When these idiots get hurt it's their family that gets destroyed.
I myself ride a 900+ lb 1978 FLH and couldnt imagine the force required to do this kinda damage. I can see the headlines now tho... "Helmet saves motorcyclists' life..." I'll bet the guy has a great big suzuki tattoo and a pierced eyebrow to match... Maybe he needed some more ballast. troop
I was told a while back that most motorcycle accidents are guys who have had their motorcycle license less than 6 months and their motorcycle less than 6 weeks.
Taurus parts should be cheap enough to repair that huh?
From the looks of the photo you won't have any trouble buffing that right out. What's up Troop? The boat looks awesome! I still want to do the trip but so far the summers been hectic.
I had this exchange on a parrot forum just tonight after somebody said he will start using his motorcycle to commute:
Re: Gas went up 60 cents this week!
Motorcyclists are so selfish and inconsiderate. Every time the gas price spikes in SoCalif, more motorcycles are used. They crash, tying up the freeways and causing everybody else to waste more gas. It's even worse if a fatal, as that requires waiting for the coroner, sometimes for hours. My neighbor the ICU nurse, says helmets just keep the brains all in one place. They're still scrambled....
The only way you can fight the price of gas is to use less of it. As more people use less, the price will go up even more, of course. When I see cars lined up, wasting gas at a drive-up window, I think there should be a $1 surcharge on each transaction. Exercise getting out of the car helps fight obesity, too.
Thanks for the opportunity to rant...
It got the following response:
Making generalized statements about a group of people based solely on the actions of a few is a poor choice. I know many people who ride simply because they cannot afford a car.
I'm sorry someone losing their life delayed your commute home. Failure of other motorists to detect motorcycles in traffic is the predominating cause of motorcycle accidents. Cars are just as responsible for motorcycle crashes as motorcyclists are. Almost every time I ride someone will pull out right in front of me, or change lanes into me and I'll have to avoid them.
But don't listen to me, my brains are scrambled.
"Whether the stone hits the pitcher or the pitcher hits the stone, it's going to be bad for the pitcher." (Sancho) Same goes for motocycles. Sorry to upset you. You fail to appreciate the gallows humor that comes with freeway driving here. I try my best to avoid the freeways on the Saturday nearest the end of the month, as people are moving furniture in (probably borrowed) open pickups, and scattering the contents to the danger of those who follow. I have had several close calls.
Many other drivers on an antique Ford Forum think I'm crazy for driving my Model T on the freeways. It cruises at 65, and has been modified to stop like a modern car. I always point out that it's at least as safe as a motorcycle. Nobody has challenged that yet.
Even a cheap old Ford Escort gets 30 mpg, roughly the same as most motorcycles. It just won't weave through rush hour traffic the same way as a motorcycle.
Regardless of the cause, four wheeled vehicles will always be safer than two-wheeled vehicles. Per mile, the most dangerous mode of travel is a bicycle.
I'm tempted to follow up with Troop's post.
These 'Crotch Rocket' fools never cease to amaze me. Riding around at 100 mph in a tee shirt and shorts. Obviously they've never gone sliding across an intersection in a leather jacket and leather chaps, on their knees, praying "I hope these chaps don't wear through", before. I was 'Harley' back in the days when it wasn't 'cool'. Before every 'shoe salesman' and his grandmother owned one.
Like somebody said earlier, they aren't motorcyclists, they're 'organ donors'.
Oh God Ralph, don't even get me started on the bicyclists.
Even "back in the day" I had a pal with a NEW 750F and he always wore a bell star helmet. In crawling traffic, there was a stop and merge that you had turn around to see to merge ... almost 160 degrees aft. Inching forward, the car in front stopped twice, and Mark seeing this at the last second, hit the front brake. I mean like at 1/2 mph. That Vetter fairing funneled its' corner right into the eyeball slot on the helmet and broke his nose. I always laughed at the guy being a helmet freak and he was sure pissed. The same guy always wore sandals and shorts, but HAD to have the helmet.
I wondered if he ever stubbed a toe on a parking curb or if that bike layed down with a hot pipe across his leg how he'd feel. Ultimately with less than 1000 miles on the BRAND NEW bike, he rear ends a car at 40 mph at 3 a.m.... sober as a judge. That was 1973 and that bike is still buried in a guys garage with the now VERTICAL front forks et al. Itll be a "barn find" in another 50 years! troop
My frustration with guys doing stupid things in traffic is that it almost never just affects them. If they do 120 and then squish themselves against a tree - ok fine. Except that you have accidents like this one where you destroy someone else's property or worse their health.
Idiots are going to be idiots no matter what. I just wish they would take that sort of behavior to a track.
My friend's adult son was thrown from the back of a hopped up 3-wheel ATV at about 80 mph when they hit a curb, and onto his head. In the five weeks before the family agreed to pull the plug, he racked up $1.3 Million in hospital charges.
There is some 1942 law that says insurance companies can't pay if alcohol is involved. Yeh, they had some beers. Yup, you and I got stuck for the $1.3 Million.
There are always victims other than the rider. That's why some nanny state laws are needed.
I have a car cam with gps that views both front and rear to help stop insurance fraud. Its saved my bacon a couple of times. Nothing like the ability to be able to show law enforcement right there at the site a nice video of your side of the story. A few months ago it was used in court when it recorded a a car that turned in front of a motorcyclist I was following causing him to do some body work on the car door with his head and me almost turning him into a pancake. Gladley I was able to stop in time.
The health teacher here at school quotes a statistic that scares most of the kids.. I shouldn't quote because I do not know the exact numbers but they are something like.
Speed bike operators under the age of 24 have a 6 month life expectancy. I am sure of the 6 months, but not 100% sure of the age (24).
In any case not a good statistic. We lost a recent graduate last week when a car pulled out in front of him, and another adult this weekend missed a curve and was launched over the guard rail. Both died. Sad State for many families. I heard the recent graduate was not in excess of speed, just not seen by the car, that is most likely not the norm.
Innocent riding can go bad, too.
Pete Conrad died on July 8, 1999, less than three weeks before the celebrations of the 30th anniversary of the first moon landing. While motorcycling in Ojai, California, with his wife and friends, he ran off the road and crashed. His injuries were first thought to be minor, but he died from internal bleeding about six hours later. He was buried with full honors at Arlington National Cemetery, with many Apollo-era astronauts in attendance.
A similar thing happened about five years ago to a friend and Old Bold Pilot in his early seventies. He skidded on gravel on a mountain road, seemed fine at first, then had brain hemmorhage. He was hospitalized for a couple of years, in rehab hospital after that. He'll never recover completely.
Just some extra details... GTFO TEXAS (get the fork outa)... 7-10 days for a copy of the police report. Only 3 visits to impound lot allowed and two have been used. Pat still needs tons of stuff (personal) from trunk etc. Lisa (daughter/driver) may be at fault because she observed "vehicle" coming at her at 120 mph plus and changed lanes to get outa the way.
Now on to State Farm... $500 deductable is Pats problem, she also has to pay 20 percent of a rental, and the stoooopid agent wont help her at all; its a corporate situation. Are all these peckerwoods swallowing the Kodiak juice instead of spitting it out ???? This whole deal is turning into a situation thats against the law in 44 states between two consenting adults. Yes, use your' dirtiest imagination because its true. It all started between some town and Gomorah. Im not nearly upset as she is. A low ball settlement and poor credit rating is gonna net the ol' widow a rusty datsun because of some ignorant arse hole on a motorcycle with a death wish. More to follow... ws
Wheres Clint when you need him... Sudden Impact results: Car 1, bike ZERO ws
Thats a hot pink front fender chunk in the fender well, and the POI (point of impact) on the Right rear wheel... ws
"Like a good neighbor, State Farm is there".
Right, if your idea of a 'good neighbor' is a guy whose up all night playing Rap music and throwing beer cans in your yard.
Trooper, we all know that the primary job of an insurance company is to 'insure' that they make money.
I used to ride decades ago but gave it up due to too many close calls. The Model is scary enough for me thanks. Nevertheless, I would never advocate banning motorcycles. They arrived at the same time as cars and progressed at the same rate so, I figure they have just as much right to be on the road. Cruising my T along side a 1910's Harley sounds like a fun thing to do.
I quit riding too Dave. I sold my last Harley (a 1960 XLCH) in 97 when I moved to Florida from Calif.
I didn't buy another 'modern' Harley when I moved to Florida (I've never owned a Harley that was 'new' enough to have one of them 'lectric starter gadgets' on it), I bought a Model T instead.
Right on Dennis. I meant to say Model T in my last post.