What kind of Babbitt?

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Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Bill Everett on Monday, May 20, 2013 - 02:25 pm:

What kind of babbitt is this?




Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Norman T. Kling on Monday, May 20, 2013 - 02:54 pm:

Antinomy
Norm


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Gary Tillstrom on Monday, May 20, 2013 - 03:21 pm:

Unsure of what composition was used but if it were mine I would run it. Clean out the lubriplate and assemble with oil/STP mix. I think I've met you before. You live in the Memphis area?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Bill Everett on Monday, May 20, 2013 - 04:24 pm:

Hi, Gary. Yes, I live in Collierville and used to work on McLemore; I remember your coming there to help with my car.

We moved the business to Olive Branch a few years ago; it's a different world here.

Marion Pass, J.B. Cook Auto Machine, did all the machining to the block, etc., here and sent everything to a gentleman in Kansas City back in '02 to get babbitted. Although I don't know his name, I once was told he used to work at Federal Mogul and bought all their fixtures when FM got out of the babbitt business.

If you think you'd recognize the babbitt's composition, I'd like to bring the block to you. Also, do you know of anyone in our area who can balance the T engine/transmission?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Gary Tillstrom on Tuesday, May 21, 2013 - 07:41 am:

If J.B. Cook did it then I'm sure its right as rain. He used to do A stuff but didn't babbit T's. He wouldn't have wanted to been associated with it if it wasn't right and if he trusted the guy in KC then I would too.

There is a machine shop I use up in the sticks in Tipton county that I will check on balancing. He is cheap on everything else. Last engine I took to him he decked it, bored it, milled the head by .100, did a three angle valve job using 350 Chevy valves and the cost out the door was $230 which included the valves.

I know I won't have time to assemble that block until July as I have two airplanes to annual and a T roadster body that I need to get in paint.

Probably the most important thing on reassembly is install the flywheel and transmission shaft and indicate the shaft to ensure its concentric with the crank, many of them are not and need to be corrected. Multiply that with a tail shaft that isn't concentric with the trans shaft and you will have a vibrator. It all needs to be match marked at assembly. I like to build up the transmission on the engine for that reason.

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Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By James Michael Rogers on Tuesday, May 21, 2013 - 08:04 am:

Hard to tell what the composition of the babbitt is just by looking but, Ford used what is called today Ford Genuine babbitt. The composition was 86% tin 7% copper and 6.5% antimony with the other .5% being trace amounts of other elements, one of which is lead but at .35% trace.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Adam Doleshal on Tuesday, May 21, 2013 - 10:30 am:

Most metal suppliers that sell babbitt ingots can test your babbitt and tell you exactly what is in it for around $100 per test. That is the only way to know.


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