Warford Arrived!

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Model T Ford Forum: Forum 2013: Warford Arrived!
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Seth from NC on Thursday, May 23, 2013 - 07:40 am:

Pretty stoked, over a month ago I was looking for an original Warford transmission for my car and struck up a deal with a guy in Oklahoma for his for $750.

It's not very clean and pretty on the outside but I took the shifter off and she looks nice inside! Everything is nice and snug but it turns freely in all gears. The only thing 'missing' per se is some sort of shifter ball on the end of the lever. Biggest thing right now is rebuilding the shifter - the big pins have some rust on the ends. I'm going to get them all the way out and clean all of the springs, ball bearing keepers, shafts, and holes/guides. There's remarkably little wear on the shafts and balls as well as the forks and shifter itself.

I think once it's all cleaned up and smoothed out and freshly greased it'll be smooth as my baby niece's behind. After that I'll dismantle the gears and bearings inside and clean and grease everything really well. I think all of that plus some nice heavy gear oil and it'll run like a champ.

Now I just need the shorter drive shaft and torque tube from Texas T and some brakes from Mr. Sidmore and I'll be ready to whomp those hills in Hiawassee, GA this summer!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Gene Carrothers Huntington Beach on Thursday, May 23, 2013 - 12:13 pm:

Seth, glad to see you finally got the Warford deal done. I have been running one just like that for the last few years and really like it. Always shift on the go with and without the clutch.
I might recommend that after a through inspection and you find all the bearings and teeth in good shape that you don't take it apart. You know the old saying don't fix something that's not broken.

Good Luck


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Warren Henderson on Thursday, May 23, 2013 - 12:36 pm:

Seth, be sure and take plenty of photos of everything for documentation. They'll come in handy when you start reassembling the transmission.

Happy motoring, Warren


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Nathan Bright on Thursday, May 23, 2013 - 01:23 pm:

hey seth x2 on the pictures please along with any bearing#s you can post. If you can take a picture of an "exploded" view of how everything goes together that would be awesome!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By ex trooper on Thursday, May 23, 2013 - 01:34 pm:

Put a HURST T handle on it! troop


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Seth from NC on Thursday, May 23, 2013 - 02:06 pm:

Hey Gene, I have been contemplating that approach as well. I may just stuff grease in the bearings that I can get to, and make sure it's clean and good to go on the outside, and then just run it as is. Like I said it's really firm and I can't find any play in it.

Because it's basically frozen I'm going to have to dismantle, clean, and assemble the shifter. That piece isn't very complicated though so I'm not too worried about it.

Sorry gents, you may be out of luck on the pictures aspect.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Bob McDonald-Federal Way, Wa. on Thursday, May 23, 2013 - 02:07 pm:

This is the Muncie 3 speed that I picked last month, It will be going in my 21isy roadster with Snow Bird Attachment, need more rear end torque. should be in sometime this summer.this is how it arrived , will clean it up before installing.

Bob


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Frank Harris from Long Beach & Big Bear on Thursday, May 23, 2013 - 06:05 pm:

There are some shims under the end plates that are held in place by three cap screws front and back. They are the key to getting everything aligned. They are of different thicknesses, measure each one and tag it as you take things apart so that they go back together just right. A photograph will not tell you their position, you have to measure and tag.

There are some detent mechanisms that are made out of a set screw that holds a spring loaded ball which provides just the right pressure for getting in and out of each gear. Too tight and it will be hard to shift and too loose and it will jump out of gear. And just like Goldilocks and the three bears, the last time you set them will be just right.


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