Looking at the weather channel, Sometimes I wonder, why anyone would live in Oklahoma. They are talking about all the possible tornados. Talking about one just east of Chickasha. 3:00PM Thursday.
Living in Florida, with the hurricanes,at least we get a little warning.
ehhh im sorry... when you live in NC, living in FL looks just as crazy as living in OK... especially when you consider most of your state is near, at, or below sea level. Here is the real question... why would you live in NYC or New Orleans where the city is literally under sea level??? New Orleans is a BOWL for cryin out loud!
The NUMBER ONE REASON for living in OKLAHOMA!!!!!!
The women are beautiful! and people are friendly!
PS--And we don't know any place better!
I was always amused that my dad's sister who lived in Oklahoma said she'd be afraid to live in California because of the earthquakes. It seems that most places have their own potential for some kind of natural disaster.
We all breath the same air,and it is an established fact it will kill you.
The devil you know is better than the devil you don't.
California is the 1 I cant fiqure out for sure.
The mountains help protect us here in nc from strong storms comeing from the west but some hurricanes take us for a ride.
Aint no where perfect.And you can rest assured,if there was a "safe" place to live as far as weather and such,the taxes would be high as a kite.
I can't figure out why after 3 (or is it 4) storms in the past 15 years that no one thought of a decent shelter for the schools. This aggravates me to no end. If your whack enough to keep re-building (and I'm assuming the insurance keeps paying for it)at least make an attempt at protecting the students. It's criminal.
The leaders about 150 years ago had that same thought about OK, so they "gave" it to the Cherokees to live on reservations, and marched them from the SE in what became the Trail of Tears.
Oil discovery a couple of generations later gave the Cherokees a bit of revenge.
The temperature of the ocean determines the amount of rainfall. We have the southbound California Current, which brings cold water from the extreme north pacific. Hence, Calif and the West are drier than average.
The Gulf Stream brings you all warm ocean, and lots of rainfall. The extreme of warm ocean is the spawning of hurricanes.
As the ocean temperatures rise, there is more extreme weather of all kinds. That's what we see today. . Interruption of the ocean's currents could cause the West to get hot & wet, and the East US to get colder and drier, and eastern Asia and Europe to sink into nuclear winter.
It's a crapshoot where the survivable areas will be.
Another crapshoot is a huge solar event like 1921 and prior events that will knock out our power grid indefinitely, reducing us all to subsistence living. One biggie would be the total meltdown of all nuclear power plants in North America. We're overdue for such a solar event.
Is this OT enough?
You got that right, Mack - taxes are way high over here, though the weather, the bedrock and the animal life is reasonably safe
I moved to Florida in 2003, after my divorce and heart attack, and in 2004, we had 4 hurricanes. I left town 3 times and came back to everything, no damage.
The first one, I left and went to Daytona Beach and the hurricane changed directions and followed me there. The rest of them, I left the state. About ready to move back to Indiana. Nice, here, in the winter, but hotter than hell in the summer. Don't like the bug and critters here in Fla.
I guess you know, Roger, the melting of the Greenland ice cap could disrupt the Gulfstream..
Here's my 0.02 cents on Fla. After 2 years stationed at Homestead AFB I figure I've had enough. Tied down aircaft trying to fly during storms and raining on one side of the street. Whoof.
The Okie Congress Critters voted against aid for the victims of Super Storm Sandy, and against funding FEMA. That limits my empathy for the whole lot.
We still have the best looking women in Oklahoma.
well lets all just move to equador, cheap and perfect weather, wife and i are going down later this year and check it out.for retirment purposes only!!!
No matter what area of the country you live in you have some weather problems to deal with. Earthquakes, floods, tornados, huricanes, snow storms, heat,cold, dry, wet, wild fires, hail, rain.. we all learn to deal with it. It's the dang neighbors that drive me nuts!
I live in Memphis now, right on the New Madrid Fault.
I spent the first 68 years of my life in New Orleans. I take exception to the statement that New Orleans is "a bowl" and "below sea level." That is certainly not entirely correct.
True, some parts of New Orleans are below sea level. Mostly, they are no longer inhabited, since Katrina.
The city proper is not "a bowl." There are plenty of openings in the surroundings that can let water out. In addition, New Orleans has one of the two most sophisticated drainage and pumping systems in the world (Paris is the other).
What happened in Katrina was (1) not nearly as bad as the main-line media made it out to be, and (2) was entirely man-made, not the result of a storm.
Yes, some levees collapsed. But, they have been determined to have been built incorrectly, and both built and accepted under the supervision of the Army Corps of Engineers. What happened was entirely caused by somebody taking pay-offs to approve levees that we now know were not built to the specifications. 34-foot sheet pilings were cut in half, and driven only 17 feet into the ground, where they did not reach the proper strata to give them a seal against leakage. The levees that collapsed, were pushed out from the bottom.
What I can't understand, is this: When the early settlers were trekking across the US, going west, and they encountered a winter in Minnesota, living in sod huts under multiple feet of snow, why in God's name didn't they have the sense to turn South, come spring?
Come rain, snow, hurricanes, tornadoes, earthquakes, and all the others, the answer is simple -- Home is where the heart is.
Pretty safe here in New South Wales, Australia as long as you don't swim in the ocean (sharks), don't use the outdoor dunny (toilet) and sit on a redback spider, don't wander through the scrub and step on a snake and never ever walk in the bush at night (drop bears!!!!). :-)
My heart is not here. I guess Califunny is not home. But having been through several earthquakes (including Loma Prieta), earthquakes don't scare me much (as long as I am not in a high-rise).
Drive carefully, and enjoy, W2
It's hard not to believe we have the best weather in the world right here in SoCal. Here on the coast we expect only a week or two at max of uncomfortable temps. Don't know any neighbors that have A/C and a couple who never have used their heaters. We get a little shaking most days but you wouldn't know it unless you checked the internet site.
Can't say much for the traffic and taxes but we learn to live with it which is much easier when retired.
Paul, didn't you see on the news, Australia was voted the best country in the world to live in 3rd year in a row, despite the few little things you listed!!
I'm not at all worried about global warming and the resulting rise in sea level. I'll be fine, here in the Ozark Islands.
Let's fact it: it's all about where you call home. For whatever reasons folks are always drawn back to the places where they have family, community ties, or love of the land and its many variations. Regardless of scorching summers, frigid winters, and a host of other natural or man-made challenges, something draws us back there because that's where we feel most comfortable. And if you don't feel comfortable...keep looking.
I did see that story and I totally agree, wouldn't live anywhere else!
Personally, I have only ever seen a redback and that was years ago, 1970's, and it wasn't even on a toilet seat!
My grandpa told me we are Okies because, years ago, he and grandma were smart enough to leave Texas but they ran out of money before they could get to Colorado.
That's odd, Rick. In my small town, west of Houston are a family that moved from Oklahoma during, or after, the Dust Bowl. In the forties, fifties, and sixties, the family (clan) was quite large and well to do, owning a lot of farm land. Now, every one of them in the first generation that moved from Oklahoma has died except one old gentleman, Richard Barker, and his wife, who I consider very good friends. They share with me many stories about the Dust Bowl and life in Oklahoma. They wouldn't trade their life in Texas to go back to Oklahoma, especially since in the forties, one of the largest natural gas fields ever discovered up until that time was right under their sections of land.
I have several friends in the car hobby in Oklahoma. Oklahoma is a good source of antique cars because things don't rust like they do in wetter climates. One of my cousins is married to an Oklahoma girl. She was, and still is, all the "arm candy" a guy could want. So, Oklahoma isn't all bad news, but you could talk me into moving there. Eastern New Mexico is about as close as I'd get.
When I was growing up in Oregon, we had Okies, and CIO, California Improved Okies.
Think of all the people who moved away from the Dust Bowl in Model Ts.
The problem with living in a once good place is everyone starts moving there and ruin it, Driving away the locals and making it a terrible place to live.
Kep, that's why I hate the broadcasting of the Pasadena Rose Parade and the Rose Bowl Game. It NEVER rains on that parade, and half the huddled masses in the flatlands head this way within a week.
Oklahoma AND Texas as far a as women go ....
Checotah is a nice down, I saw a movie there
with my daughter years ago downtown before
they closed the theatre ...
"When the Okies moved to California it raised the IQ of both places." ~ Will Rogers
Why am I here in Tornado Alley? My great grandfather and his family settled in Wisconsin. After his wife and oldest son had pneumonia two winters in a row, a doctor told him, "If you want them to survive another winter, you'll move south." Kansas was as far south as they could go without being in the Confederate states. In 1867 a guy who had worked on the Underground Railroad in his youth would have been pretty unpopular there, so Kansas it was. I was born in Long Beach and grew up in Wilmington and Lomita, but this old place in Kansas has always felt like home.
Samuel Clemens told us that a little girl said "Good bye house, Good bye neighbors, Goodbye back yard swing, Goodbye God we're going to
California. But what she really meant was . . . . Good . . . By God we're going to California.
Punctuation is everything !
I have never set foot in Oklahoma. People live in Oklahoma because it's "home". In fact I have known many who came to California for work and when they retired went back to Oklahoma. Oklahoma has good soil for farming and although one never knows where a tornado will touch down, most tornados don't cause as much damage as the one last week. That one happened to hit a very densely populated area.
Same is true for brush fires or earthquakes. One never knows until one hits, whether it will damage or kill anyone. Hurricanes too can be more or less dangerous depending on where they hit land.
There is one thing which is quite predictable and that is floods. If one lives near a river on relatively flat land they will be subject to flooding. Same is true at the base of steep mountains.
Anyway, it is not good to criticise others' choice of where they live. It is "home".
I was thinking the other day, can you imagine if a tornado would hit Model T Haven in Iola Kansas.
Wonder if any has came close.
I agree with Norm. Some people are born and live in one place all their lives. It is home and the only place they are familiar with and love. I don't know of a place on Earth that has perfect, pleasant weather with no drawbacks. Even tropical island paradises can have hurricanes or typhoons. Other places can be too hot; too cold; too rainy; too dry; or too windy. God may have made a perfect world, but he left the choice of where to live, up to you.
Nawh, sorry. Repeated total destruction just ain't my cup of tea. Re-building knowing full well it's going down again and soon to boot is certafiable here. I feel deeply for the people that lost their homes here due to Sandy but some are complaining that the new maps put their properties in flood zones. If you live on the ocean you're in a flood zone. Period. Even if the water never came up that high in recorded history.
Severe tornados in "the alley" again this evening. Our prayers go out to all affected. Once again my home town came through without damage.Actually it is rare for us to not have several hours advanced warning for both severe storms and tornadoes. Our local weathermen have been predicting today's tornado outbreak for several days now. Oklahoma University has one of the nations top severe storm prediction centers.
The vast majority of Oklahoma residents go a life time without ever seeing a tornado. But there is always the chance, just like with earthquakes, floods, fires or any type of danger, we may someday get hit. But it's home and that's where we will stay.
Terry, don't get offended by my little jab at Texas. Grandma and Grandma never did live there, that was just a little joke he liked to tell. I'm actually kind of starting to like Texas lately...during football season...GO OU
Rode another one out tonight, one thing about the storms here, hail, rain, tornado's, they make you feel so alive afterwards, but during them you see the power of the earth, most inspiring this planet earth.
And by the way, I live in the very middle of OKC, but I was born in NYC under a lucky star.
T's you can replace it's the friendship you make that take the work.
Rick, You mean GO PU, don't you? Pasadena, Texas probably stinks, more. I'll admit UT is having some lean years, but imagine if OU played TA&M, considering what they did to Alabama, last year. Seriously, my thoughts and prayers go out to all affected by violent weather, everywhere, and that's not a laughing matter.
Drop me am e-mail Ronnie when you're planning your trip to Ecuador. Would enjoy getting together if you find the time.
We live at 9000 feet over looking the Cathedral (and city) of Banos. No heat, no a/c, no window screens cause there aren't any bugs. Not one regret with this move.
Well,1 of the biggest pet peives I have with storm damage is the folks right on the coast of NC.
A storm comes,takes down the house,insurance puts another 1 back up.Storm hits again,insurance puts it back,etc,etc,etc.
Storm takes out a big hwy connecting ISLANDS,the tax dollars put it back,etc,etc.They make ferrys for connecting islands that can be sailed to safer waters before storms.
You know after a while it looks like either the people or the insurance companys would think " You know,if we just put a camper hook up on the beach property and build the house away from the danger zone,we may not have to keep repeating this".
You would think people would get tired of their lives being riped apart repeatedly.But I guess in this throw away society,that works well.
And another thing.When folks like after Katrina, Sandy,throw EVERYTHING out of the house on the street,aint they ever heard of 409 and Clorox and rags? I mean,what does a flood do to a plastic toy,or a solid wood chair? You clean it up,refinish it and reuse it.
Oh,I forgot,back to the "We have insurance,throw it all away!".
I aint like most folks.Insurance is a nessasary evil,but I dont have alot that insurance could "replace".My memorys,my familys antiques.
I like your style Mack, you could be a SOONER, I feel the same way.
I predict that within our lifetimes there will be no new residential building permits within 20 miles of the Atlantic and Gulf: just RV hookups.
Unfortunately, I don't believe the population is smart enough to enforce that !
In the old days a person was responsible for their decisions.
Today they expect the government to bail them out
Always wondered why flood damaged things got thrown out if they were not electrical. Now i know. Because people have not discovered cleaning products and rags yet.
Furniture made from wheetbix board might be an exception as it falls apart when damp but solid wood? Should be fine if it dries out evenly.
"The government", that is us taxpayers, and the insurance for the rest of us goes up too, but we don't have the pleasure of living on the coast or in a more pleasant climate. So why do we get the bill?
Quite a few of those who were not smart enough to turn south after experiencing a winter in Minnesota, were from Sweden and Norway, and they had seen snow before!
Frank, don't forget the news service in the US is just that, US news...with very little foreign input.
Roar. Yep "we" get to pay for the bad decisions made by others
I believe in helping others when they are in trouble but why should we help people over and over when they make the same mistakes?
I'll grant that there are some beautiful sights in Oklahoma, if you'll concede that Carrie Underwood is the only decent thing that Checotah has ever had to offer. That town is the armpit of the earth. I spent a miserable week there one night.
You guy's do know she might read this forum almost every day. I don't think she would like me to agree.
Carrie loves Checotah.
On my way to Petit Jean by way of Boynton and Council Hill I avoid the traffic of downtown Checotah by taking Lotawatah Road. How's that for drift?
I cruise right by Lotawatah Road on my way to the farm exit 297 east I-40.