High Radiator Shell Attachment?

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Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jim Thode Chehalis Washington on Saturday, June 08, 2013 - 01:45 am:

Can anyone say or provide a photo of what I'm missing here? The vendors sell a radiator shell mounting bolt set but they don't work on my radiator.



Thanks,
Jim


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Allan Richard Bennett on Saturday, June 08, 2013 - 09:45 am:

Jim, as far as I know you are missing nothing. The countersunk head on the screw goes in the hole in the shell and the square nut goes behind that bracket. I believe the back of the bracket will hold the screw and stop it turning.

Hope this helps.

allan from down under.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By William L Vanderburg on Saturday, June 08, 2013 - 10:03 am:

I think your screw and nut are too small. The nut should sit in that bracket. The bracket will keep the nut from turning.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By ex trooper on Saturday, June 08, 2013 - 10:07 am:

Altho I am the anti-purist and needed a spacer block for mis-matched stuff, Alan is correct. The flathead screw goes under the welting and is hidden... ws

[IMG]http://i40.tinypic.com/9hnt36.jpg[/IMG]

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The bracket on mine was broken off many decades ago...took a block of wood and a big flat washer to cure it.

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Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By John Zibell on Saturday, June 08, 2013 - 11:23 am:

The slot in your radiator bracket does look a little wide. I have an old original radiator and the slot looks much narrower than the one in your picture. The Berg I purchased also mounted the shell as Allan described. If the nut will pass through the slot, I'd weld wings onto the nut to keep it from going through.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jim Thode Chehalis Washington on Saturday, June 08, 2013 - 11:41 am:

Okay, so the bolt and nut does not actually attach or hold the shell to the radiator. The nut just fits inside the rectangular opening and prevents the shell from moving forward or back and thus prevents the top opening of the shell from rubbing on the radiator neck.

Thanks,
Jim


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By mike peterson on Saturday, June 08, 2013 - 12:11 pm:

the nut and bolt attach the shell to the radiator, I don't think the nut and bolt are correct, ive seen the nut size need 1/2 wrench on some and 9/16 wrench on some


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Bob McDonald-Federal Way, Wa. on Saturday, June 08, 2013 - 01:03 pm:

That is a nut plate(on the rad), the nut should go in from the front and there should be a tab that BENDS DOWN TO holds the nut in place while turning the screw tight. You will need a nut the right size to make this happen. This holds the shell to the rad. It looks like the nut and screw are two small.

Bob


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jim Thode Chehalis Washington on Saturday, June 08, 2013 - 01:30 pm:

At least on my radiator it looks like it would work like this:



At least on my radiator, with the hole in back, that a captive nut is not required and the bolt and nut could be installed after the shell is in place.

Jim


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By mike peterson on Saturday, June 08, 2013 - 01:46 pm:

Jim, of all the cars I have taken apart I have never seen one like that, the nut always fits in the bracket, not like u have it, actually I always thought the hole in the radiator side strap was for a socket to fit thru, otherwise I never saw a use for the hole


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jim Thode Chehalis Washington on Saturday, June 08, 2013 - 02:07 pm:

Mike,
You sold me this radiator, so you may have taken it apart. I have two other radiators and they have rectangular holes about 13/32" to 3/8" wide x 3/4" high. A 7/16" nut would not fit in them.

None of the radiators have anything to hold a nut in place.

Jim


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By mike peterson on Saturday, June 08, 2013 - 05:10 pm:

the way u have it setting, I can see it doing any thing, isn't going to stay tight, maybe go to the auto parts store an pick up a couple of those clips that would slip over the bracket and screw the screw into them, then it would stay tight. could be after market radiator I don't remember.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Chuck Hoffman - Gold Country of Calif. on Saturday, June 08, 2013 - 08:47 pm:

This could work...
http://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/118802/167701.html?1288261365


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jim Thode Chehalis Washington on Saturday, June 08, 2013 - 09:55 pm:

Maybe there are some connections that bolt the shell to the radiator but here my take on all the radiators I have.



Maybe someone has a photo of a different type of connection.

Jim


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