I am looking for a good, working 4-ball for my 13 touring. I would prefer one with some patina since my drive train has never been restored., but again, it needs to be in working order and nothing missing or broken. I have a nice, clean working straight-thru NH to offer as a trade. I can post a pic of the NH tomorrow if there is interest...
You will also need a fist full of dollars...
I have a nice Kingston 4 ball that I had rebuilt by R. Potter that I was using on my 13 but switched to an NH which I like better. It could use a new home but I don't need any more carburetors. Sorry.
Fist full of dollars Jack? I'm not so sure. In the last year, there have been several 4-balls sell on ebay for the $150 neighborhood. A straight-through NH brings around $200 give or take. The numbers seem to tell me it's more than a fair trade. If I have no takers, I'll happily keep my NH and just buy a Kingston when I find one I want. But I'm a brass car guy and will never have a use for the NH, so I figured why not pass it along for something useful to me?
I agree with Jack. A straight through NH rebuild is a couple hours tops with $75 worth of parts if you put in a new float. A 4 ball has to have a float custom made, the ball seats have to be reground, new balls, both shafts will be worn half in two, new ones have to be made, there are non being reproduced, the adjustment rod is probably bent, a needle and seat replacement requires set up on the mill, then a custom seat installed, a custom made arm and needle actuator, etc., etc., etc. Maybe there are some good ones out there for $150 but not at this shop. I'm paying $150 for good cores but just assume that every one will have to have most of a day's work to get it ready to sell -- and I've done a bunch of them.
Hi guys, can any of you tell me what vehicle this Kingston four ball would fit please... Ray
Fist full of dollars. I gave 1 of those things away to get rid of it a few years back.TO complicated.
Ray, That might be for marine use.
I too have paid nearly $150 for Kingston 4 Ball "cores". I have SOLD them in working condition for quite a bit more than a straight thru NH...
James, you could also use the holley carb too, its only 1913 and early 1914, both work well, one starts the engine easier than the other. The Kingston Y ( 4 ball ).
I've got a 4 ball for sale, but its missing some flappers email@example.com
David.. I have a 2-screw already on the car. It works great. I just wanted a 4-ball to complete the ensamble. By the way, my 2-screw is sometimes hard to start when it is warm but I solved that problem by giving it a few cranks with the throttle wide open and the coils off to suck in some fresh air. It will fire on the next crank after that.
I have a spare NOS Holley S I would trade for a nice straight thru.
John... thanks for the offer. I will touch base with you if I step up to the buy option.
Steve.... is the bowl free of cracks? If so I am interested.
Sounds like Ray Syverson will sell you a like new rebuilt one, and John Danuser will sell you one to rebuild. I think the waterfront has been covered. Unless you are a machinist, the Syverson carb is likely the better choice. Of course, someone may offer to trade but that doesn't seem likely to me.
James, I have only one with a perfect rounded bottom bowl. The other rounded one has 1 very small crack. Have 2 flat bottomed ones. I can send pics if I get your email.
Steve - I received the Model S - It is great! I keep getting your emails with no problem but you don't seem to be receiving mine. If you get this, email your phone number and I can provide tracking.