Commutator pull rod

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Model T Ford Forum: Forum 2013: Commutator pull rod
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By michael grady on Sunday, June 16, 2013 - 03:37 pm:

Would any of you have photos at hand of the two end connections of the commutator pull rod?

Wish I could remember how all this stuff goes back! I thought I took enough photos! Grrrrr...


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By John Danuser on Sunday, June 16, 2013 - 03:38 pm:

Its in the book


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Bob Jablonski on Sunday, June 16, 2013 - 04:26 pm:

The end with the large curve goes to the commutator case,short stub pointing towards radiator, the other end to the spark rod swivel.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Royce in Dallas TX on Sunday, June 16, 2013 - 04:26 pm:

Click on page 37 here:

http://mtfci2002.readyhosting.com/manuals/Model_T_Service_Manual/mtsm.html


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Bob Jablonski on Sunday, June 16, 2013 - 06:15 pm:

That's great Royce, only if he has a original Ford Timer.

Michael, set your initial timing according to the manufacturer of your timer.

Follow my timer pull rod suggestion.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By michael grady on Sunday, June 16, 2013 - 10:22 pm:

I've looked pretty carefully through the book, and do not see how it is connected. I would not have posted my question without doing so first.

That's why I was asking to see a photo if anyone happens to have one handy.

Michael


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Royce in Dallas TX on Sunday, June 16, 2013 - 11:08 pm:

The rod fits through the hole in the timer and has a cotter pin. The rod fits through the lever on the end of the spark rod and has a cotter pin. The picture in the shop manual link shows how the rod is bent in general. It curls around the top of the timer and under the water inlet pipe on its way to the steering column lower bracket.

The earlier cars - from about 1909 - 20 - have a swivel on the end at the bottom of the spark rod. Later cars don't have this.

Is that what you wanted to know?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By michael grady on Monday, June 17, 2013 - 12:40 pm:

Yes! Royce, that's exactly what I need! Thank you! Now, where the heck did you put that little connector I took off a year and a half ago?

Michael


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By John F. Regan on Monday, June 17, 2013 - 05:07 pm:

I hate to point this out but from 09-11 they used the timer that was held in place by the timer brush and that timer rod inserted from the front then towards the motor with the cotter pin on the motor side. Just make sure the timer rod does not pass under the lower radiator hose and clamp but just passes under the metal tube only. If the rod passes under the hose and clamp it will hit that and limit your travel. Bending it then away rather than trimming and relocating the hose and clamp will have you off chasing rainbows because you have distorted the timer rod in the wrong place. To set timing with a brand new correctly made rod you will have zero clearance problems if you only bend the timer rod in the large arc that the timer rod makes before it enters the timer. Increase the span of that arc to retard the timing and decrease the span of that arc to advance it. By bending it only there you will not affect the clearance elsewhere.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By michael grady on Monday, June 17, 2013 - 11:11 pm:

Thanks John,

This is a 16 touring. One question I do have though....There is an oil tube that runs from the mag to the front of the engine. Should the rod pass in front of or behind that auxiliary oil tube?

Michael


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Royce in Dallas TX on Tuesday, June 18, 2013 - 08:24 am:

The timer rod should be above or forward of an auxiliary outside oil tube.


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