Those that are doing the optional Trail Ridge Tour the day before the Leaf Peeper Tour will be offered a chance to try their Ts out on an 18 degree climb. The regular trip into Estes Park on Highway 34 is relatively easy. However you may choose to leave 34 at Drake and go through Glen Haven. I often take the Glen Haven Route to Estes Park because I like to stop at Glen Haven for cinnamon roles. Just above Glen Haven is a series of switch backs that the county engineers report is 18 degrees. I think it is the steepest paved road I have ever been on, but it is fun just to try it. It certainly on time you want to have a full tank of gas.
Are you sure that the grade is 18 degrees, I would think it would be more likely to be 18%, a grade that is 18 degrees would be about a 33% slope and I doubt that asphalt would be laid on such a steep slope.
I meant to say 18 percent. Anyway its very steep. I can make it up using low pedal with out using my Ruckstell. I can not begin to climb it just using high with low Ruckstell. By the way the picture above was taken during last years LEAF PEEPER TOUR near Granby, Colorado.
Yeah Dave, 18% is freaking steep. I would not worry too much about going up, it is coming down that would worry me, but then I do not have auxiliary brakes.
Takes me back to 1961, going up to Virginia City, Nevada. Part of the grade was too steep for the '54 Plymouth and the '55 Studebaker, and we had to take a different road into town.
A few years ago, we were at Boulder, Idaho north of Sun Valley. The last bit of road is rather steep and requires 4 wheel drive and a good driver. When we got to the top we were told of an expensive real estate agent and her Hummer, she had parked it in the middle of the road at the beginning of the tough bit, and had her wealthy clients walk the last half mile because "no vehicle could go past this point". An old guy chugged up to the top in a beat up jeep Wagoneer (which is nothing more than a 4 wheel drive station wagon) and the real estate agent blew up because he has shamed her by doing something with a rusty station wagon that she could not do with a Hummer. I doubt that she made the sale.
What about 90 degrees?
What about 90 degrees?
What about 90 degrees?
Sorry I don't know what happened
That is a 100% grade, it took some pretty good traction to drive up that and still be able to drive through the concrete railing.
Actually a vertical wall would be an infinite % grade. A 45 degree slope is a 100% grade.
You are right Jim, I always forget that the distance traveled is with respect to the surface, not the length traveled. That is why your mileage may vary.
Michael, That would exercise your sphincter muscle.
You got me interested, I looked up the Colorado Official State Highway Map. The show 43 Mountain Passes in Colorado. They give the elevations , Hwy numbers and grades. After the grades they show a % figure. They show the grade on Mount Evans as 10 to 15% and beyond. I don't remember Mount Evens as being as tough as the county road beyond Glen Haven to Estes. By the way they list Mount Evens as the highest paved road in the United States. They list the top of that road as reaching 14,264. The main think I remember about that road was the huge chuck holes that spread clear across the road from one side to the other. Kind of rough riding in a Model T.
Anyway Gus, come out on the Leaf Peeper Tour in September and we can run up the Road from Glen Haven to Estes, if you decide to do that option!
I think it would be one that you would remember for awhile.
Thanks for the invite Dave, I would love to join you, but that time of year is usually very busy on the farm. I did pass through Longmont a a couple of years ago picking up my first T at about that time, it was an exciting drive as a 800 pound pig appeared in the road in front of me on the freeway. I had the change to drive through the part of Colorado where I lived when I was 5, and was surprised to find it much the same as it was 50+ years ago.
I don't own a smart phone or Ipad but there may be an APP that will show slope. It would be handy in a T. I have seen one for level.
I use an older GPS for a speedometer, it is about 10 years old, and anyone under the age of 20 would probably think that the GPS and the T were made about the same time. I got a notice from my auto insurer that I could get a reduction in rates if I got a chip in my car, so I drove the T to town and asked for a chip, I think they are still laughing. Some technology is T friendly, some is not.
I have lots of chips on mine.... do I qualify for the discount?
As a former POTUS once asked "What do you mean by_____"
I found a neat bicycle based map of the Glen Haven Road
It lets you look at the elevation and distance from start for any point on the road. I have also looked at some of the road with Google Earth. Looks like a neat road! We have our rooms booked and will see you in September!
Last week I was on the HCCA's Eastern National One-and Two-Cylinder tour with my 1907 single-cylinder Cadillac. Because of heavy rains in the prior two weeks, there were a lot of washed out roads, and a lot of detours. No big deal, except that the instructions for one of the detours were wrong, and many of us went a way the tourmaster never intended. We wound up on a long unpaved upgrade with no way to turn around. One guy in a 1906 Darracq had a portable GPS with a grade indicator. He said he (briefly!) saw 22%. Several passengers got some exercise on that hill. Of course, the elevation was less than 2000 feet so, unlike Colorado, the engines were developing full power, such as it was.
Gil Fitzhugh, Morristown, NJ