Can anyone say how the windbreaker is installed on a 26 27 open car?
Does it fit under the front wood bow or on top? If it fits under, what keeps it from sagging down under the wood bow and between the bow and the windshield frame.
The instructions show this:
The actual orientation of the bow and windshield frame is quite different, as:
The instructions are correct but you'll have to make it work on your car as needed. Apparently, the top material wasn't installed correctly and the bows are pitched too far forward and down. To correct this, you would need to remove the top material at the rear to pull it tighter.
On my 24, the front flap and large flap are attached to the top of the bow. The bow descends below the top of the windshield frame.
I don't think your type three sketch is accurate as wind and water could easily blow past both flaps. I don't have a 26-27 but I don't think they would be that much different in front from a 24.
I think you need to find a 26-27 and take a look. There should be a club in your area that could help you out.
Oh yeah, you're right Ted. I ran out to look at a 25 windshield and it can't be like the drawing. The stanchion clamps bring the wood just below the top of the windshield.
I've been puzzled by this too. Mine is mounted on top and the bow doesn't go low enough for the windbreak to be effective. I thought about moving to the bottom of reversing the stanchion clamps so it sits lower also, maybe both. Great pics by the way. What would be correct, that is the question.
George n L.A.
Here are a couple more pics of what the area looks like.
Maybe someone has a 26 27 open car that the top is installed and can provide some incite and maybe a photo
Dan Trace has a 27 Touring. I have pictures of it but none show that area. Perhaps he'll show up or send him a PM.
I have an original flap off my '25, which is the same thing. It's pretty stiff, and has multiple layers of top material. There are two main parts of this. I just made one for my '13 roadster, and although not original does the job. If you will get in touch with me, I'll be happy to make a drawing of it for you. The one I have is genuine Ford. You can go ahead and finish wrapping your front bow. This part goes on after that.
Here is an update. Cartouche changed their design but did not update there instructions. I got the following from Jim Monczynski at Cartouche:
Jim, I apologize for the instructions not being updated at the time we changed the windbreaker. The new style windbreaker does not have a flap. I attached pictures showing the installed windbreaker on the car we had here.
If you have any other questions please let me know.
And photos from Cartouche:
Looks like it should work as long a the car has a windshield wiper to hold the windbreaker up in the middle of the windshield. Without a wiper it looks like it may sag down. Without a wiper maybe the best option would be to leave it off or install it over the top of the bow, I don't know.
The way mine are made is that there is a flap which is attached to the top of the front bow and it goes over the windshield frame. Then the windbreaker is attached just in front of the windshield. It still tends to blow in when driving fast. The above is for a 26
I also have a 22 and there is a flat piece of steel slid into the bottom of the windbreaker stitched in. That holds the windbreaker straight and against the windshield. Some day when I get around to it, if ever, I intend to slide a steel piece into the windbreakers of the 26's and see if it helps. It will have to go in only on the side opposite the windshield wiper, but that should be enough to hold it.
Jim: The wind flap you posted is totally wrong. Car Touche doesn't know what they are doing! They don't do their research, and brag about the poor quality of their products. As I mentioned before, I'll be glad to help you with the correct flap, which, in fact is mounted across the top portion of the bow, not the bottom. When you hit 30mph with the one shown, it will let the wind through.
An update of what I did. The windbreaker with the kit did not work without a windshield wiper to hold it up in the middle so I did not install it.
I don't plan on driving in the rain so that should not be a problem. However as a back up plan, I can use Rain-X on the window so a windshield wiper is not needed and I found that a length of foam pipe insulation just fits in the space over the windshield and seals the opening as well or better then a standard windbreaker. So the plan is if there is any chance of getting caught out in the rain, I'll treat the window with Rain-x and throw the section of pipe insulation under the seat. I should be a able to see where I'm going and stay relatively dry.
Wow, Jim ... those irons (and your car) look beautiful .. I mean, errrr .. no WAY are they ever going to look proper on your vehicle ... I think I should take them off your hands, so you can get a better looking set ... ;-)
Are they new or did you fabricate/rebuild them?
I'll be interested in your outcome, as I hope to be able to put a proper set of irons and top on my roadster/come/pickup.
I saw what appeared to be such a windbreaker (although the top was down, and was difficult to tell), on a '24 roadster. I didn't catch the owner before they tooled off to their next stop.
It looked to me like they had snaps on theirs, that would hold the 'outer/lower' flap in place.
If it's not too much trouble, might you be able to measure the length of your main/rear iron? ... i.e. If the top bow and iron were setting on the floor, how high would the body bolt hole be? I'd like to compare to mine .. it was a transplant from a touring.. or something.
I got the bows on eBay and they were unused. I believe they are newer construction and seemed to be well made.
Here is a photo of these bows with some dimensions. If you need any more detail, just ask.
Thanks Jim ... Looks like they were quite a catch!